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Ask YC: Review Trendly, new analytics app from the folks behind Dabble DB

50 points| avibryant | 16 years ago |trendly.com

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[+] lsb|16 years ago|reply
So here's the thing: I'm not going to give you my Google Analytics until you show me a compelling reason to. "We track Google Analytics" doesn't mean anything to me, an intrigued audience, yet skeptical of and resistant to just installing shit willy-nilly.

Install it on the company blog or something.

[+] ckinnan|16 years ago|reply
GA is the keys to the kingdom for an online business...conversions, cash flow, ad sense, ad words...it is all there. You'll also need to offer a very clear and compelling value-add over Google Analytics for a serious person to even consider it. Heck, I don't even use 1/2 of the stuff GA gives me-- why do I need another service? You've got to answer that question.

You should also charge money for the service....I'd actually feel more comfortable about using it.

Also, the site lacks basic things like a location address, privacy policy, an obvious About Us page, and a TOS that protects my data.

[+] Pistos2|16 years ago|reply
Agree; I'd rather see it in action on a dummy/demo site first.
[+] avibryant|16 years ago|reply
Agreed that the front page is light on info/screenshots etc. Did you click the "how it works" link?
[+] icey|16 years ago|reply
Any chance of getting a demo like Dabble's?

I assume you did this one in Seaside as well? Every time I see a project you've done it makes me want to fire up a Smalltalk image and try it out again.

[+] ben|16 years ago|reply
This project has nontrivial pieces written in Squeak, Java, Ruby, and Javascript. The site has a dash of PHP.
[+] avibryant|16 years ago|reply
Yeah, I'll do a screencast at some point, but it's way too much effort to do that until we've finalized the UI - and we want feedback from y'all first :)
[+] catton|16 years ago|reply
We prototyped it in Seaside, but the end product is actually Seaside-free. We do use some Smalltalk though.
[+] martian|16 years ago|reply
The mid-page sparklines are surprisingly informative.

Simple request: Would love to be able to click on referring domains to visit their websites.

[+] ABrandt|16 years ago|reply
It appears I'm more trusting of my Analytics data than most (could be because my site garners little traffic). The copy on the front page was clear enough for me to warrant a trial, and I felt that I knew what to expect from the very beginning.

I found the sign in process quick and painless--sign into Gmail, agree to grant access, and now sit anxiously awaiting my email of data. The "how it works" section that I was shown directly afterwards was also very clear. As I read the content and followed along with the screenshots, it all just made perfect sense. All in all, great job!

[+] tdavis|16 years ago|reply
Your homepage is really confusing to me. The first thing I find is a logo which is a link... to the page I'm on. That's useless and confusing. Next the "Try Trendly Now" bar, which looks more like some kind of horizontal-rule style header than it does a link. Then there's a tiny "How it works" link that sorta looks like a header too, considering there is a paragraph of text below it (which is the same size as the link, and it's just some "about" copy!)

You should make better use of modifiers which produce contrast and a hierarchy of importance, such as text size and color. I imagine this isn't your final homepage, but having it start off more intuitive couldn't hurt :)

[+] quizbiz|16 years ago|reply
I want an analytics system that I can give different style sheets to, it will apply them like in AB testing automatically, and show me the performance results.

Google analytics is good enough for collecting data but how do you help us implement the data?

[+] ganjianwei|16 years ago|reply
Small thing about the UI: as large as the "Try Trendly Now" button is on the main page, it didn't really occur as a button to me until I happened to mouse over it. Maybe I'm just not used to a link looking like that.
[+] emmett|16 years ago|reply
It's taken more than 2 hours to get my results - I'd love to get an email saying "After looking at your data, it looks like it's going to take N more hours to finish the results".
[+] avibryant|16 years ago|reply
Yeah, that would be good. The main bottleneck is in sucking all the data down from Google's API - for a site with as much traffic as justin.tv, that can indeed take hours. Once that's done the processing itself is relatively quick. But that's certainly something we could notice and let you know about. (Consider this your notification for now...)
[+] attaboy|16 years ago|reply
After reviewing some of the comments, I've made the "Try Trendly Now" link a bit more "clicky".
[+] piranha|16 years ago|reply
Nice thing! But you have problems with unicode text (for example, with cyrillic).
[+] boundlessdreamz|16 years ago|reply
looks good from the screenshots! Have tried to approximate this with visualization etc but that never worked well enough. have submitted my analytics. Waiting for the result.

What about pricing when out of beta ?

[+] catton|16 years ago|reply
Thanks.. you should be getting your results pretty quick (longer if you have a high-traffic site). Pricing is still an open question. We're talking about $5/month intro pricing for now, but presumably it will eventually be based on the traffic volume of the site/amount of data we're processing.
[+] gojomo|16 years ago|reply
Looks cool. Should have clear privacy policy given the sensitive business information that's being collected.

A hint of pricing would be nice, too, though I can understand you may just be in the collecting-feedback, sending-feelers stage.