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firstprimate | 12 years ago

My experience is obviously is anecdotal, but nonetheless I learnt this from my daughter.

When she was about 3 my wife and I were discussing a birthday gift. My wife wanted to get her a kitchen play set (stove, dishes, etc) and I disagreed, purely on gender role grounds.

A week later we were visiting with my sister, whose daughter did have one of these play sets. My daughter spent the entire visit playing with that set, and asked for one when we left. My wife looked smug.

In retrospect my thinking was dumb. My own life experience should have clued me in. Most of Western society is built to cater for the white male. Those who aren't are told that 'success' is dependant on behaving more like a white male. That is only true if there is only one type of success, the white male type.

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antiterra|12 years ago

Your mistake was not acknowledging that a kitchen play set is a great developmental tool for both girls and boys. Deciding that girls should avoid all things stereotypically for women is just as bad as deciding they should avoid all things stereotypically male.

finnh|12 years ago

My son's incredible fascination with buses and cars arose with ZERO outside influence, starting when he was maybe 1 year old (he's 2 1/2 now). At the time I don't think he even owned any toy cars, but he would hear a bus driving by our house and shout "bus! bus!" ... it was one of his early high-usage words.

I'm not saying this is down to gender - he could have had the exact same reaction were he a girl - but I am saying this is a genetic predisposition evident in him. Nothing cultural about his love for cars.

Whether this (and other) inherent traits correlate with gender is a question whose answer I don't know. My only point is that culture is not everything - clearly genetics play a big role in what people are interested in.

djur|12 years ago

What mechanism do you suggest for a genetic predisposition for interest in a technology that was invented in the last handful of generations? How could there possibly be a "car gene"?

ZeroGravitas|12 years ago

My son had a fascination (amongst many others) with hairdryers. We once watched an advert together for a pink barbie toy hairdryer that blew out sparkly bits when on.

Noticing his interest I asked him if he wanted one. He looked at me as if I was an idiot. Pink is for girls he explains. I think that's the end of it but no, he goes on to say he'd like a blue one.

Clearly he hadn't fully internalised the cultural rules at that point. Not long afterwards I can remember him becoming acutely embarrassed by the pink play house he'd inherited from a cousin that he'd previously enjoyed playing with.

marquis|12 years ago

That's a perfect description of children figuring out the world. I remember having the same confused experience as a young girl, being embarrassed that my girly friends would come over and I wanted to build things outside instead of playing dress-ups. Convincing an 8 year old girl who's been told not to get her clothes dirty to come out and play in the mud is tough, until you let her wear your own overalls and you both go out and get filthy. I'm sure her mother wasn't impressed with me but I'm proud of that day.

xixi77|12 years ago

As I noted in another comment already, kitchen playset was one of my favorite toys, and I kept bothering my parents to get more of those :) No, I'm not a woman. They are just fun for a lot of kids!