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erid | 12 years ago

The latency must be huge though.

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paulgerr|12 years ago

2.6 second round trip for light, so pretty huge ping times.

nraynaud|12 years ago

That's why I always found moon people to be lame at quake!

rel|12 years ago

I worked at NASA (AMES) on a project to put small mobile robots on the moon. Our biggest goal was to create a tele-operated mode where from earth we could actively roam around the moon. The hardest part was that factoring in a 4 second delay from our commands to the network stacks to the rover on the moon, and then that video from the moon back to our computers and then creating good judgement. A 4 second delay seems insignificant but is in fact detrimental to intuitive controlling.

rodh|12 years ago

I'd imagine TCP, as a protocol starts to fall over with moon-to-earth latencies.

Or would it? Perhaps simply increasing the retransmission timer would give us interplanetary internet. I wonder.

TylerE|12 years ago

Moon to earth should be workable enough...average speed of light roundtrip will be about 2400ms.

stonemetal|12 years ago

TCP uses RTT time to try to guess network congestion. Having worked on software that almost always had satellite hops, it sucks on long links. Primarily what you notice is that you get limited bandwidth because the TCP stack is throttling to prevent congestion. Not sure what RTT is to the moon and back but you would want to use something like TCP Hybla that does network congestion control a different way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_congestion-avoidance_algori...

arnarbi|12 years ago

> interplanetary internet

Winternet!

7952|12 years ago

The latency is sufficient that you could actually use space as a data storage medium. At 622Mbps there is 1,596Mb in transit at any given time.

gprasanth|12 years ago

Unless, our technology advances to always do stuff a couple of seconds in advance by knowing our intents.

toomuchtodo|12 years ago

Or we figure out how to use quantum entanglement or gravity as information transfer mechanisms.

rzimmerman|12 years ago

Still not as bad as Voyager, where the ping time is an entire weekend.

agashka|12 years ago

wouldn't it be less then RF? Radio Frequencies travel at the speed of sound, while lasers would be light-speed, from my understanding. I'd really love some insights on this!

EDIT: I still need to learn a lot on signals!

zargon|12 years ago

Radio is not sound, it is an electromagnetic wave that travels at the speed of light.

robin_reala|12 years ago

Radio waves are EM waves, same as light. They all travel at c.

16s|12 years ago

Speed of light, not sound.