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Letter to a young programmer

157 points| Anon84 | 12 years ago |neopythonic.blogspot.ca | reply

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[+] AlexanderDhoore|12 years ago|reply
From SICP [1]:

This book is dedicated, in respect and admiration, to the spirit that lives in the computer.

"I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customers got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're responsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun. Above all, I hope we don't become missionaries. Don't feel as if you're Bible salesmen. The world has too many of those already. What you know about computing other people will learn. Don't feel as if the key to successful computing is only in your hands. What's in your hands, I think and hope, is intelligence: the ability to see the machine as more than when you were first led up to it, that you can make it more."

Alan J. Perlis (April 1, 1922-February 7, 1990)

[1] http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/

[+] cowmixtoo|12 years ago|reply
When I taught Python to my kid and a few other kids that live around my house a coupl of years ago, Guido was gracious enough to sign these head-shots for me to give to each kids as their graduation present.

https://plus.google.com/photos/108306457281321389001/albums/...

[+] marquis|12 years ago|reply
May I ask if you kept a curriculum, or what the goal was for teaching, to keep the kids interested towards building a working feature/product?
[+] city41|12 years ago|reply
I'm not sure what to make of that. It feels both nice and oddly narcissistic at the same time. I'm not that familiar with Guido though, maybe I just don't understand his style.
[+] frozenport|12 years ago|reply
Wow those kids look really young, what did they make?
[+] ableal|12 years ago|reply
Can't see the photo on mobile - Google tries to push some download, then muffs up the URL, resulting in a 404.
[+] krrishd|12 years ago|reply
As a young programmer, I cannot be more lucky than this. Right now, you can learn virtually any programming language (such as Python), online, so the fact that I'm not old enough to get a college degree doesn't matter.
[+] mattsfrey|12 years ago|reply
And before then, we had the public library! Good ole ANSI C FTW
[+] s_husso|12 years ago|reply
And that you can actually communicate via email/twitter/g+ with the creators or the core developers of those languages and expect to even get an answer is pretty awesome as well :)
[+] themodelplumber|12 years ago|reply
Very nice to see a blog post with this headline that isn't full of sarcasm or finger-wagging or self praise. It was a good reminder to me that positive messages, simply put, are worth the little time it takes to write them. I need to keep more of my own rants in my drafts folder. :-) Thanks Guido!
[+] moomin|12 years ago|reply
Point of fact: computers aren't really getting faster anymore. Well, phones and tablets still are, but desktops and servers? Not so much.
[+] quchen|12 years ago|reply
Single CPUs don't, but the number of cores does grow. GPUs are also worth considering here.

What does not get faster is programs written for old architectures. 20 years ago the best way to optimize a program was waiting a decade. That won't work today, and to make programs future-proof they have to scale to a lot of threads.

[+] gngeal|12 years ago|reply
What makes you think they aren't getting faster?
[+] systems|12 years ago|reply
a bit of topic

but I remember I read something for guido van rossum, i always wanted to find it again, and read it to remember the details

what i remember of it, is that guido was saying something in the line of ... that one can spend tremendous amount of time editing html, crafting html by hand, and make it perfect ... but that this would be a waste of time because most developers nowadays use template engines that generate html, or use WYSIWYG tool ... and that we should focus on more interesting problems

again, it was something like that, i tried to find it, since for ever, to get a better read of this view ... but i just cant

maybe my memory is tricking me, maybe it was not guido

but anyway, this quote in the article reminded me of this statement ... the idea ... that we should find more interesting problems that we can use computers for

[+] tonga|12 years ago|reply
While Python as a high-level language cannot control the hardware like C and assembly do, I think Guido is urging Pythonists to learn C as a second language to prepare for the software-hardware interaction world?
[+] _xhok|12 years ago|reply
Python was my third language; I wish it had been my first. It's just so fun to write and wonderful to look at. C (my first) is also fun to write, but not when you're young--not as much as Python is.
[+] kristoffer|12 years ago|reply
I remember having lots of fun with C as a teenager. This was in the early 90s. We wrote games and demos using mode 13h (320x200 1 byte/pixel) in DOS (thus pretty much bare metal).

Those were the days. I think it was the perfect way to get started with programming :-)

[+] teni|12 years ago|reply
... and this is a great time to become a programmer.
[+] lazydon|12 years ago|reply
That great stuff and especially when writing after about two years of no posts on his blog.
[+] onedev|12 years ago|reply
The simple messages are often one of the most powerful.
[+] tylerdurd3n|12 years ago|reply
Guido van Rossum (inventor of Python)... ok, talk to me when the inventor of your favourite language has won a Turing Award.