Oh, they have enough weapons. Now the serious game begins as Reva pointed
out. The investigation of the attack is not interesting. I suspect the
findings have already been reached before the first investigator got to
work. Now the question is how India responds. God willing, the Indian
response will make us a lot of money.
Holy damn. Here is one interview of her (Reva Bhalla): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc1gJOPCipY And at the end she is linking the attack to Al Qaeda. I think this is why they are giving her kudos, for planting the seed. This is nefarious on so many levels. This means India directly comes under pressure to respond back to Pakistan, and then respond to allegations that Al Qaeda is expanding in India. It is ironic that it was one of the CIA double agent, with links to terrorist organization LeT, who conducted recce of the sites before attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Headley
India was under so much pressure to go to war at that time. Experts were gunning for surgical strikes. Imagine the pressure on bureaucrats, especially when both countries have nuclear arsenal.
Why does education/intelligence/morality not cull the inner devil of some?
I was in India when the Mumbai carnage took place. My classmate from IIT was killed the same day at the very same spot [1].
And here we have this class of a bitch thinking of making a "lot of money" off a probable war ['caged match' look at the audacity!]. No wonder they say karma is broken all over the place. On another story these same corrupt assholes have abused their power to send a whistle blower to jail and serve a 10 years term [2].
Will be glad to supply weapons to both sides if India and Pakistan want a
cage match. India gets the net and trident and the pakistanis get the shield
and short sword. Kamran can instruct in Klingon
He's pretty clearly implying that the investigation is rigged, and therefore uninteresting.
The money comment is a pretty insensitive. That said, a lot of time spent on any particular thing tends to result in serious desensitization to the subject. Go have dinner with a few EMTs and listen to their shop talk. ("He was tasting for air, saying, 'dudegaspam Igaspgonnagasplive?', and all I could muster was, 'dudemock gasp, mock gasp no, mock gasp you aren't mock gasp gonna live!'" Followed by a few rounds of laughter. Got to hear that little gem said just the other night by one of the top Search & Rescue professionals in the world.)
This kind of thing isn't uncommon, or even that big a deal. Few people can withstand the scrutiny of a public life-dump.
Tackiness aside, I don't think it's sufficient evidence for us to call for anyone's hanging or jailing, like some seem to be advocating here.
It's a weird feeling reading other people's email. I'm sad to see Wikileaks didn't at least do a quick regex pass to remove the credit cards (yup, found some) and the personal love notes. I'm generally a supporter of Wikileaks, but mass dumps like this aren't responsible and only give more ammunition to their detractors.
Wikileaks is attempting to provide transparency in a world where that doesn't much exist so boo-fucking-hoo if somebody's Mastercard gets leaked in the process.
Mass dumps aren't adding any more "ammunition" for their detractors than some sort of filtered dump would. Detractors don't need much of a reason to dislike what Wikileaks is doing beyond the fact that they've been exposed.
> I'm sad to see Wikileaks didn't at least do a quick regex pass to remove the credit cards (yup, found some) and the personal love notes.
Please, tell this to everybody claiming "I've nothing to hide". They will realize that YES, they've got something to hide, and then they possibly would shut the fuck up.
Sorry man, priorities - you got them wrong. Who cares about a few credit card numbers or "personal love notes" when we find ourselves living in corrupt "democracies" that are about to crumble pretty much all over the Western world.
If more people funded to hire people or people volunteered to go through the content first, then sure - otherwise it's important to release content like kid0m4n posted in a comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6742844
Is it more, or do these leaks paint StratFor as something along the lines of a "conflict investment firm" on the lines of Richard Morgan's Market Forces [1]?
Jacket cover description excerpt:
"A coup in Cambodia. Guns to Guatemala. For the men and women of Shorn Associates, opportunity is calling. In the superheated global village of the near future, big money is made by finding the right little war and supporting one side against the other–in exchange for a share of the spoils."
Subject: Re: GOOGLE & Iran internal use only - pls do not forward
GOOGLE is getting WH and State Dept. support & air cover. In reality,
they are doing things the CIA cannot do. But, I agree with you. He's
going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to
happen to expose GOOGLE's covert role in foaming up-risings, to be
blunt. The US Govt can then disavow knowledge and GOOGLE is left
holding the shit bag.
That email thread has been public for quite a long time now and the subject of some conspiracy theories. Unfortunately, the rest of that email chain fizzles out, suggesting that it was just an opinionated off-the-cuff remark, not the result of any serious analysis. Maybe there is more in today's drop, but as of yesterday there wasn't anything particularly damning regarding that google employee.
Holy crap, we're passing Fred's rantings to confederation partners?
From: Emre Dogru [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:37 AM
To: burton
Cc: Confederation
Subject: Fwd: Manning & Wiki Founder Arrest/Prosecution?
Hey Fred, one of our confed partners (Sabah daily) would like to use this
information without any attribution. But he just wonders if your source
used "fry" in the sense that Manning should be executed by electrocution,
or does it mean something else in intel business lingo?..."
Wiki leaks is embarrassing itself. Stratfor is a silly bunch of blowhards who repackage the Economist for gullible subscribers who think these jokers are some secret intelligence agents.
Question for game theorists: Is here a realistic scenario under which the entire world could disarm and shift from coming up with better ways to kill people to more constructive pursuits.
" Call me if you want me to get on IM. I'm running around the house and
putting things away but would be happy to come back to my computer and
chat w/ you. Smoochies Hunny. I love you!
XOXOXOXOXO
Amy"
I'm a supporter of the idea of WikiLeaks, if not all of their decisions ... now here's what bugs me: why is it rare (or never) that we see mass dumps of Russian, Chinese, or Pakistani intelligence information? What, there's no corruption, profiteering, or otherwise bad vibes over there? The US has a monopoly on all that? Why does it always have to hurt US intelligence activities (yes: some deserve to be hurt, but just blanket dumping also puts the country at risk).
There are plenty of those things, but certain media outlets/"journalists" (Joshua Foust...) have taken this propaganda approach of thinly veiled accusations that Wikileaks only wants to hurt the US and may be a [insert enemy nation] intelligence operation.
It's just a bunch of bullshit. I was reading wikileaks long before the Iraq War logs, and there was before that very little US related leaking.
The interesting thing for you to do is analyze how it is you came to this myopic view of the situation. Who/what have you been reading? Having conversations with? It's a great example of how filter bubbles affect our view of the world.
[+] [-] kid0m4n|12 years ago|reply
Quote:
Oh, they have enough weapons. Now the serious game begins as Reva pointed out. The investigation of the attack is not interesting. I suspect the findings have already been reached before the first investigator got to work. Now the question is how India responds. God willing, the Indian response will make us a lot of money.
This after the devastating terrorist attack in Mumbai which killed 164 people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks
[+] [-] iamshs|12 years ago|reply
India was under so much pressure to go to war at that time. Experts were gunning for surgical strikes. Imagine the pressure on bureaucrats, especially when both countries have nuclear arsenal.
Why does education/intelligence/morality not cull the inner devil of some?
[+] [-] monsterix|12 years ago|reply
I was in India when the Mumbai carnage took place. My classmate from IIT was killed the same day at the very same spot [1].
And here we have this class of a bitch thinking of making a "lot of money" off a probable war ['caged match' look at the audacity!]. No wonder they say karma is broken all over the place. On another story these same corrupt assholes have abused their power to send a whistle blower to jail and serve a 10 years term [2].
Nice going, keep it up newage SS!
[1] http://www.iitfoundation.org/?p=200
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6740652
[+] [-] rickhanlonii|12 years ago|reply
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:02 AM
To: Fred Burton
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Reva rocks
Will be glad to supply weapons to both sides if India and Pakistan want a cage match. India gets the net and trident and the pakistanis get the shield and short sword. Kamran can instruct in Klingon
Sent from my iPhone
[+] [-] grecy|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] ThrowFarAway|12 years ago|reply
The money comment is a pretty insensitive. That said, a lot of time spent on any particular thing tends to result in serious desensitization to the subject. Go have dinner with a few EMTs and listen to their shop talk. ("He was tasting for air, saying, 'dudegaspam Igaspgonnagasplive?', and all I could muster was, 'dudemock gasp, mock gasp no, mock gasp you aren't mock gasp gonna live!'" Followed by a few rounds of laughter. Got to hear that little gem said just the other night by one of the top Search & Rescue professionals in the world.)
This kind of thing isn't uncommon, or even that big a deal. Few people can withstand the scrutiny of a public life-dump.
Tackiness aside, I don't think it's sufficient evidence for us to call for anyone's hanging or jailing, like some seem to be advocating here.
[+] [-] hansjorg|12 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] brymaster|12 years ago|reply
Wikileaks is attempting to provide transparency in a world where that doesn't much exist so boo-fucking-hoo if somebody's Mastercard gets leaked in the process.
Mass dumps aren't adding any more "ammunition" for their detractors than some sort of filtered dump would. Detractors don't need much of a reason to dislike what Wikileaks is doing beyond the fact that they've been exposed.
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[+] [-] simgidacav|12 years ago|reply
Please, tell this to everybody claiming "I've nothing to hide". They will realize that YES, they've got something to hide, and then they possibly would shut the fuck up.
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Jacket cover description excerpt: "A coup in Cambodia. Guns to Guatemala. For the men and women of Shorn Associates, opportunity is calling. In the superheated global village of the near future, big money is made by finding the right little war and supporting one side against the other–in exchange for a share of the spoils."
[1] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40450.Market_Forces
[+] [-] joshfraser|12 years ago|reply
Subject: Re: GOOGLE & Iran internal use only - pls do not forward
GOOGLE is getting WH and State Dept. support & air cover. In reality, they are doing things the CIA cannot do. But, I agree with you. He's going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose GOOGLE's covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Govt can then disavow knowledge and GOOGLE is left holding the shit bag.
[+] [-] Amadou|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] redwood|12 years ago|reply
I imagine the two events are connected
[+] [-] ThomPete|12 years ago|reply
"... 2010-12-03 11:54:04 FW: Manning & Wiki Founder Arrest/Prosecution? [email protected] [email protected]
Holy crap, we're passing Fred's rantings to confederation partners?
From: Emre Dogru [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:37 AM To: burton Cc: Confederation Subject: Fwd: Manning & Wiki Founder Arrest/Prosecution?
Hey Fred, one of our confed partners (Sabah daily) would like to use this information without any attribution. But he just wonders if your source used "fry" in the sense that Manning should be executed by electrocution, or does it mean something else in intel business lingo?..."
https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=410181
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https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?relid=707#searchresult
[+] [-] robomartin|12 years ago|reply
Please don't say "A visit from Vulcans"
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Seems a bit too personal to me
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Nice.
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It's just a bunch of bullshit. I was reading wikileaks long before the Iraq War logs, and there was before that very little US related leaking.
The interesting thing for you to do is analyze how it is you came to this myopic view of the situation. Who/what have you been reading? Having conversations with? It's a great example of how filter bubbles affect our view of the world.