Is this a viable business idea? E.g. providing a service online that requires a limited amount of processing time and could be packaged in a fairly small program when provided for offline processing?
To the vendor this obviously provides more control. But is it worth it for the client?
Personally, I'd be very reluctant to transfer anything that could be done locally by a small command line tool online.
I'm one of the creators and I can tell you we don't know either. We're a web development agency and this is a side project that got more popular than we imagined. After we launched we got a massive amount of requests for licenses or API subscriptions, so we decided to give it a go and see if we can at least cover the costs.
Is the standard CGI email form a viable business model? Wufoo says yes.
People will pay small fees to not have to worry about something. The "I'll transition to using self-hosted forms next month but I need this done right now" mentality.
> E.g. providing a service online that requires a limited amount of processing time and could be packaged in a fairly small program when provided for offline processing?
I'm a pretty big fan of TinyPNG. I was actually part of their beta invite for the API and wrote up a quick Ruby gem(1) to automate the process (and to auto-shrink PNGs on a Capistrano deploy). I haven't really messed around with it much since then, but it was fun to write and the team at TinyPNG was very accommodating.
Not sure what I think about their pricing structure, but I wish them the best.
Normally, I compress my pngs with gimp (by indexing them). That works fine, and as I do most of my screenshots as well with it, it is not too cumbersome. But it's not perfect either.
The results of tinypng are a bit better. In my tests the images are almost the same size, text becomes equally blurry, but the gradients are a bit better preserved and the colors less distorted.
With the Api, i can build a small tool which compresses the image for me without having to start gimp.
I won't become a paying customer though, 500 is perfectly fine for me, and I still have gimp. But I can imagine professional CMS-systems (or wordpress setups) including this in their workflow to automatically compress the .pngs inserted by their authors, instead of having to find the best compression method on their own (and rely on the server setup).
PS: If that assumption turns out to be true, it could be worthwhile to build a wordpress plugin using the API to try to push that.
I can't think of where you would use this. What platform is missing this functionality but has a URLFetch/Curl/FOpen to use the API?
I would also think that if it was viable as a business someone would undercut you quickly. I suspect that a free Google App Engine account would give the API's to do this for a LOT of users at no cost to the host... Looks like I could roll it on GAE and handle about 70k images a day on a free instance or 2M a month on the free instance...
has anyone tested this and compared it with other tools?
i seem to have a lot of free tools that do a very good job of this... especially when i add some thought to it. my own tests are basically inconclusive - its does the same job as my choice of tools up-to the point of being clever with colour depth and accepting a little loss, or things like knowing its a normal map so the blue channel can be binned...
[+] [-] kken|12 years ago|reply
To the vendor this obviously provides more control. But is it worth it for the client?
Personally, I'd be very reluctant to transfer anything that could be done locally by a small command line tool online.
[+] [-] molf|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] sachingulaya|12 years ago|reply
People will pay small fees to not have to worry about something. The "I'll transition to using self-hosted forms next month but I need this done right now" mentality.
[+] [-] pwg|12 years ago|reply
You mean something like optipng: http://optipng.sourceforge.net/ or pngcrush: http://pmt.sourceforge.net/pngcrush/
[+] [-] chromaton|12 years ago|reply
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Preparing_images_for_...
[+] [-] thangalin|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] molf|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] sturgill|12 years ago|reply
Not sure what I think about their pricing structure, but I wish them the best.
1) https://rubygems.org/gems/tiny_png
[+] [-] tmikaeld|12 years ago|reply
Here is a free open source app for OS X that uses it. http://pngmini.com/
[+] [-] masklinn|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] onli|12 years ago|reply
Normally, I compress my pngs with gimp (by indexing them). That works fine, and as I do most of my screenshots as well with it, it is not too cumbersome. But it's not perfect either.
The results of tinypng are a bit better. In my tests the images are almost the same size, text becomes equally blurry, but the gradients are a bit better preserved and the colors less distorted.
With the Api, i can build a small tool which compresses the image for me without having to start gimp.
Like (beware, crappy code):
I won't become a paying customer though, 500 is perfectly fine for me, and I still have gimp. But I can imagine professional CMS-systems (or wordpress setups) including this in their workflow to automatically compress the .pngs inserted by their authors, instead of having to find the best compression method on their own (and rely on the server setup).PS: If that assumption turns out to be true, it could be worthwhile to build a wordpress plugin using the API to try to push that.
[+] [-] molf|12 years ago|reply
We're offering the free plan for people (perhaps like you) that just want to convert a couple of images whenever they deploy a site or build an app.
[+] [-] nyar|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] drakaal|12 years ago|reply
I would also think that if it was viable as a business someone would undercut you quickly. I suspect that a free Google App Engine account would give the API's to do this for a LOT of users at no cost to the host... Looks like I could roll it on GAE and handle about 70k images a day on a free instance or 2M a month on the free instance...
[+] [-] unknown|12 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] jheriko|12 years ago|reply
i seem to have a lot of free tools that do a very good job of this... especially when i add some thought to it. my own tests are basically inconclusive - its does the same job as my choice of tools up-to the point of being clever with colour depth and accepting a little loss, or things like knowing its a normal map so the blue channel can be binned...
/me waits for key to test thoroughly
hmm. looks like it is actually lossy. :/
[+] [-] gdc|12 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] sukuriant|12 years ago|reply
They wrote something, they noticed a lot of uptake and now want to see if they can monetize this. I don't see a problem here.
[+] [-] 9oliYQjP|12 years ago|reply