The glaring ethical issue remains that the core of Atom is nonfree. From what I've read, the source code will be viewable but not redistributable and the public can submit pull requests. If this is true, it means that GitHub is intending to trick users into providing gratis labor for their product without retention of copyright for their contribution.
I'm not well versed in the nuances of software licensing. Are there prominent examples of other projects using a similar setup? Or is Github unique in this?
Or is it a case where Github's size/reach makes them unique in this at scale?
My real gripe with using web rendering isn't that it doesn't look native (the "native look" changes every year, so who cares if we deviate)... no, it's that it's slow and sluggish and resource-hungry. I honestly don't feel comfortable running Atom on my laptop.
I've not dealt with sluggish performance, while it may be resource hungry (I haven't looked at the resources it consumes, I have 16GB of ram in my laptop so what do I care) I appreciate the performance.
Vim with syntax highlighting and a bunch of plugins has been getting painfully slow for me these days, I've been tempted to play around with the threaded branches. Atom seems quite speedy in comparison.
Agreed. Even with small tasks, I've found Atom to be noticeably slower. Just as an anecdotal data point, it takes roughly a second to open a file or folder in Atom (i.e., after opening the app, the time b/w dragging any file or folder onto the icon and seeing it appear in the editor is about a second), while the same interval in Sublime is imperceptible.
I love this editor! Instantly switched to it - now to wait for some Gophers to create some neat packages for Go.
This editor is so easy to extend that it took me three hours to learn how to tweak the UI from scratch (and I have NO Nodejs experience - dependencies are easy to install).
Everything is tweakable using CSS and that's fantastic. It's super fast as well, no difference whatever between this and Sublime Text 3 for me. Love it and will gladly buy it once it leaves Beta.
When I got my invite to Atom it definitely mentioned that during the beta period it was automatically sending feedback and that it was a feature that could be disabled.
So far Atom is not life changing for me but I do find it very useful and extensible, possibly the most interesting part is that I can already use it switching from Sublime Text 3 with almost zero issues because its so similar in feel.
I think its got a great chance to be a wonderful editor and I'm rooting for Atom (and Github) on this one, but there is still a long way to go before giving everyone a compelling reason to switch (especially those coming from vim, etc.
every chromium embedded also uses the google dns fyi. having built a chromium embedded app it was puzzling to me that there's no way to disable that(or maybe there is and i haven't found it). i don't know if that's the case here though(since it's blocked in my firewall).
in fact most of the so called privacy aware chromium builds also leak the dns information to google.
This is not deliberate practice, it's usually hidden somewhere in the code, and unless your firewall prompts you you might not even ever notice.
It's definitely slick. While comparisons with ST are obvious, I find it a touch more polished. One example is that the "find all" results page is automatically updated whenever you modify the results. So, if you replacing a bunch of text, the results are updated in real-time each time the files are saved.
Two gripes that I have so far are:
- The actual integration with GH does not work for me. E.g. Git blame does nothing. I haven't had a chance to troubleshoot yet.
- I can't open files (or even see them) if they're in .gitignore. I can't figure out how to turn this off.
All in all though, I like it so far. I'm excited that the community seems to have hopped on it so quickly with packages so it will be interesting to see where it goes.
It's a silly question to want the answer to, though. You can tell someone everything they need to know to judge something on its merits, and they'll still ask whether it's "overhyped" or "underhyped", or, I suppose, "just the right amount of hyped."
Hype fluctuates over time and between different venues (e.g. right now Atom is being "hyped" on HN, but next month it might be the talk of /r/programming, etc.) Asking whether something is worth the hype requires the author to be aware of exactly the level of hype the reader has experienced, which requires, basically, being that individual reader.
The git integration could be a lot better but I like the green or amber hairlines next to the line number that give you a real-time git diff against HEAD. Cool feature. It is a bit slow, especially when opening files, I've noticed.
Anyone know how quickly they're adding people to the beta at this point? Should I hold my breath on the invite I requested, or should I stop reading these articles that are making me increasingly jealous? :)
How long is it taking to get an invite through the normal github signup? I'd like to try this out to see if it is accessible with screen reading software although the answer is probably not really.
davexunit|12 years ago
maxerickson|12 years ago
If they want to distribute the contributions, they will have to make it clear up front.
paperwork|12 years ago
morganherlocker|12 years ago
dchuk|12 years ago
Or is it a case where Github's size/reach makes them unique in this at scale?
stormpat|12 years ago
So if its too ethical to pay for quality software, just think about your own job, you get paid, right?
Sublime is not free, still people create packages for it, for free.
Do you mean that if the code is open to everyone, the software should not cost?
Kind of weird, using open source software to create software to make money, but not being able to sell software for money if its opensource.
lispm|12 years ago
doughj3|12 years ago
sdegutis|12 years ago
danielsju6|12 years ago
Vim with syntax highlighting and a bunch of plugins has been getting painfully slow for me these days, I've been tempted to play around with the threaded branches. Atom seems quite speedy in comparison.
crm416|12 years ago
ollyculverhouse|12 years ago
sergiotapia|12 years ago
This editor is so easy to extend that it took me three hours to learn how to tweak the UI from scratch (and I have NO Nodejs experience - dependencies are easy to install).
https://github.com/sergiotapia/atom-darcula
Everything is tweakable using CSS and that's fantastic. It's super fast as well, no difference whatever between this and Sublime Text 3 for me. Love it and will gladly buy it once it leaves Beta.
zbruhnke|12 years ago
When I got my invite to Atom it definitely mentioned that during the beta period it was automatically sending feedback and that it was a feature that could be disabled.
So far Atom is not life changing for me but I do find it very useful and extensible, possibly the most interesting part is that I can already use it switching from Sublime Text 3 with almost zero issues because its so similar in feel.
I think its got a great chance to be a wonderful editor and I'm rooting for Atom (and Github) on this one, but there is still a long way to go before giving everyone a compelling reason to switch (especially those coming from vim, etc.
rjzzleep|12 years ago
in fact most of the so called privacy aware chromium builds also leak the dns information to google.
This is not deliberate practice, it's usually hidden somewhere in the code, and unless your firewall prompts you you might not even ever notice.
llamataboot|12 years ago
ChristianBundy|12 years ago
unknown|12 years ago
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purephase|12 years ago
Two gripes that I have so far are:
- The actual integration with GH does not work for me. E.g. Git blame does nothing. I haven't had a chance to troubleshoot yet.
- I can't open files (or even see them) if they're in .gitignore. I can't figure out how to turn this off.
All in all though, I like it so far. I'm excited that the community seems to have hopped on it so quickly with packages so it will be interesting to see where it goes.
ChristianBundy|12 years ago
legohead|12 years ago
well, me.. that's why I'm reading your blog
derefr|12 years ago
Hype fluctuates over time and between different venues (e.g. right now Atom is being "hyped" on HN, but next month it might be the talk of /r/programming, etc.) Asking whether something is worth the hype requires the author to be aware of exactly the level of hype the reader has experienced, which requires, basically, being that individual reader.
look_lookatme|12 years ago
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