The popular game app "Spaceteam" does an amazing job of real time p2p communication between iOS and Android devices. It would be great if the developer could release some sort of open-source library for those connections so other people could build on his/her work.
Hey! That was our doing. :-) Apportable (Winter 2011) worked to bring Spaceteam over to Android and we had to face this problem head on. Bluetooth LE does work for Android <-> iOS but it requires a really new Android device with the right hardware, otherwise the safest option is Wifi. A lot of code involved. We open sourced the code we wrote to run on the Android side: https://github.com/apportable/Bluetooth
This is the main area where I suspect Google's greater reliance on clouds leads them to castrate their operating systems. Last time I checked Chrome OS still didn't even support Bonjour mDNS. (Still the case, and it's related to this first mentioned in 2009: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=13573 )
The Android stuff alone is an inconsistent trainwreck (because not all hardware supports all options on a given version of the OS either) and it took them a long time to get there.
Apple really have been leading the sane local peer-to-peer world ever since Bonjour first appeared, and the new developments have just extended their lead.
It will be interesting to see just how this difference affects the nature of their respective wearables.
> Apple really have been leading the sane local peer-to-peer world ever since Bonjour first appeared, and the new developments have just extended their lead.
It's not hard to be a 'leader' when there's only 5 or so products to communicate with.
Clearly they don't support anything other than this, and so calling it a 'lead' is hilarious when you have to have everyone you might want to communicate with buy the same product as you.
My Android immediately becomes the remote control of my Sonos system whenever I approach my house, so it seems to me that Android's network service discovery is adequate for at least some purposes, whether it uses mDNS or not (I'm pretty sure Sonos uses multicast HTTP, FWIW.)
As far as I am aware, Apple does not seem to have a policy preventing this type of work. There was a fairly well-publicized release of an experimental codebase from Ericsson:
WebRTC does not currently exist on the desktop Safari either. I'm sure if a 3rd party wanted to implement WebRTC in a browser for iOS, they are probably welcome to do so.
That's a different layer - it runs on top of an already established network. This is about establishing some kind of connection.
WebRTC also requires a central server for discovery (typically overy HTTP I think?). It maybe possible to replace that with Bluetooth LE, but then the WebRTC connections to each other will need to run over an TCP network.
This ongoing attempt by Apple to hobble iOS is why I've decided that my next device would be an Android device. I'll have access to filesystem, I can run an SSH server on my phone which means I basically can do pretty much everything I need to spend less time "managing" my content without having to buy into an whole eco system of Apple devices. E.g. i can push new music files automatically to my phone via a script), access newer photos/videos taken on my phone on various trips and sync them back to my computer (without having to rely on cloud etc).
[+] [-] habosa|12 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] fidotron|12 years ago|reply
The Android stuff alone is an inconsistent trainwreck (because not all hardware supports all options on a given version of the OS either) and it took them a long time to get there.
Apple really have been leading the sane local peer-to-peer world ever since Bonjour first appeared, and the new developments have just extended their lead.
It will be interesting to see just how this difference affects the nature of their respective wearables.
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[+] [-] hahainternet|12 years ago|reply
It's not hard to be a 'leader' when there's only 5 or so products to communicate with.
Clearly they don't support anything other than this, and so calling it a 'lead' is hilarious when you have to have everyone you might want to communicate with buy the same product as you.
What rot.
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[+] [-] uuid_to_string|12 years ago|reply
Castration indeed.
[+] [-] zurn|12 years ago|reply
But apparently Apple has kept it out of iOS Safari and doesn't allow other browsers to implement it?
[+] [-] foo2312|12 years ago|reply
http://labs.ericsson.com/apps/bowser,
which has since been retired (although as far as I know, not due to any conflict with Apple):
http://labs.ericsson.com/blog/retiring-bowser.
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WebRTC also requires a central server for discovery (typically overy HTTP I think?). It maybe possible to replace that with Bluetooth LE, but then the WebRTC connections to each other will need to run over an TCP network.
[+] [-] noisy_boy|12 years ago|reply