I have been using this on and off in beta. If possible I highly recommend a wired network connection. I have been testing it on a WRT54GL and that was not always sufficient. When my AC router is not misbehaving (ASUS RT-AC66U) I've been able to play online FPS shooters surprisingly well. Fighting games or FPS that are heavily twitch based won't work, but pretty much anything that can suffer the occasional frame drop or isn't precision works well.
tl;dr You may need an N wifi router or better that is rock solid to make things run smooth.
You ARE using a 9 year old router, considering that probably all other hardware (PC, Laptop, Consoles, Phones, Tablets, ...) was replaced since then and most cable connections can't be maxed out with that wifi speed (After forward error correction you'll end up with about 30 mbit/s), a lot of things might be happier if you switched that one out :)
My RT-N66U handles 720p just as well as my powerline network does, at least with a good signal, and that's on 2.4GHz with 2-3 interfering channels.
If you can't get WiFi to perform, don't be surprised, but it isn't impossible.
Just remember to turn off your bluetooth stuff, my connection was terrible at first and I'm pretty sure shutting down my active bluetooth connections are what fixed it. (Alas, if only my client was 5GHz)
P.S. My rendering machine is always wired through powerline, so my setup does have an advantage in that the rendering machine isn't competing for wireless bandwidth with the client!
I've been using this more and more lately. Most recently to play Dark Souls 2 on a laptop in the living room rather than having to be sequestered upstairs in the office.
It's pretty amazing how well it runs, with the input lag being minimal and the quality of visuals far surpassing what the laptop could actually handle on it's own.
Being a pretty hardcore Dark Souls guy I have to ask - is even that minimal lag acceptable?
I'm just thinking how many invader duels end up being super close, even a fraction of a second here and there adds up. Plus there is already some lag when playing online with friends and/or against an invader to begin with.
It's really working great, I've been using it for about the past six months (beta) and it always went great, way better than expected. I wasted hours and days trying to come with a similar solution and it always sucked. Glad they came up with something actually enjoyable.
Tried it a couple of months ago, and it ran like ass. Could be due to older hardware? Serving PC is core 2 duo 6850, and htpc it was playing on is core 2 duo 6400. Wired fast ethernet connection.
To anyone running headless systems, it's worth mentioning that this works extremely well for remote control of network systems. I've played with it a bit so far and I'm quite impressed with the low latency/high quality.
So I can add Visual Studio to my steam library, and potentially develop in it from my mac? This is huge, I can now run my PC at home headless since I only used it for games/visual studio.
So if I want to stream Steam games to my TV, what sort of client hardware do I need on the TV end? Is there an inexpensive box I can buy and use for this purpose? The support articles are kind of vague on what the system requirements for clients are...
I just got up and running with a temporary HTPC that is attached to my second TV. Its a crappy Nettop with an Atom and 1x PCI-e ION2.
I'm getting 30FPS @ 720p on the TV streaming a number of games (Civ V, Stick of Truth); I also tried a number of non-Steam games which worked great as well.
Many of the lower-end Steam Machines should be capable of doing this, as well as some HTPC implementations (assuming they can run Steam, so not a Roku or AppleTV or such). I'm betting the SteamOS system requirements[1] would be a decent proxy until more information is released, although I doubt that you would require a hard drive that big and a graphics card that powerful.
"With good hardware and a fast home network, you’ll forget the game is running remotely."
But with bad or moderate hardware you'll experience wonderful 5000 ms latency and have a horrible time.
It seems like you would need an HTPC anyway to load up steam and send the video from that 2nd computer to your TV. The whole process seems pointlessly convoluted.
I'd rather have wireless hdmi or even a really long hdmi cable from my good computer to wherever the tv is.
The upsides to a remote rendering rig are not obscene, but they are nice. Basically a top-end machine is big, ugly, noisy, and hot. So remote rendering lets you put it out of sight in a dark corner of a cool room in your house. In my case, the basement laundry.
It also means the rendering rig can still have normal monitors to be used as a normal computer if you choose.
Lastly, even my $400 laptop can now play Skyrim at max settings, so I can play on the porch if I like.
As your other reply mentions, as far as competing remote rendering protocols, there aren't really any others good for games.
I tried to do this with VNC a long time ago, so I could play Wizardry 8 on a laptop in the backyard. My wifi couldn't reach to the shady spot of the yard.
Whoa, I will have to try this with Raspberry Pi - "How to make 35$ SteamBox".
Btw, just tested it on my MacBook Pro, its awesome to start some CPU/GPU intensive game and play it without fan noise and heat :) Also interesting thing - you can add nonsteam games (battlefield, guild wars, heck even applications - WinSCP etc) and stream them ! This is awesome !
I've seen some of the discussion related to SteamOS and the Raspberry Pi. Looks like SteamOS has no ARM support, so that is likely to be a hurdle. Something similar is Limelight which streams your computer to a PI including keyboard and mouse support, but is only compatible with a Nvidia 600 or 700 card.
[+] [-] mey|11 years ago|reply
tl;dr You may need an N wifi router or better that is rock solid to make things run smooth.
[+] [-] rb2k_|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] sliverstorm|11 years ago|reply
If you can't get WiFi to perform, don't be surprised, but it isn't impossible.
Just remember to turn off your bluetooth stuff, my connection was terrible at first and I'm pretty sure shutting down my active bluetooth connections are what fixed it. (Alas, if only my client was 5GHz)
P.S. My rendering machine is always wired through powerline, so my setup does have an advantage in that the rendering machine isn't competing for wireless bandwidth with the client!
[+] [-] Goronmon|11 years ago|reply
It's pretty amazing how well it runs, with the input lag being minimal and the quality of visuals far surpassing what the laptop could actually handle on it's own.
[+] [-] evo_9|11 years ago|reply
I'm just thinking how many invader duels end up being super close, even a fraction of a second here and there adds up. Plus there is already some lag when playing online with friends and/or against an invader to begin with.
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I tested it with some silverlight based services available here (not netflix though) and it worked like a charm.
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[+] [-] wonderyak|11 years ago|reply
I'm getting 30FPS @ 720p on the TV streaming a number of games (Civ V, Stick of Truth); I also tried a number of non-Steam games which worked great as well.
Requirements seem very, very modest.
[+] [-] mcb3k|11 years ago|reply
[1]: http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown
[+] [-] izzydata|11 years ago|reply
It seems like you would need an HTPC anyway to load up steam and send the video from that 2nd computer to your TV. The whole process seems pointlessly convoluted.
I'd rather have wireless hdmi or even a really long hdmi cable from my good computer to wherever the tv is.
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[+] [-] sliverstorm|11 years ago|reply
It also means the rendering rig can still have normal monitors to be used as a normal computer if you choose.
Lastly, even my $400 laptop can now play Skyrim at max settings, so I can play on the porch if I like.
As your other reply mentions, as far as competing remote rendering protocols, there aren't really any others good for games.
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[+] [-] turshija|11 years ago|reply
Btw, just tested it on my MacBook Pro, its awesome to start some CPU/GPU intensive game and play it without fan noise and heat :) Also interesting thing - you can add nonsteam games (battlefield, guild wars, heck even applications - WinSCP etc) and stream them ! This is awesome !
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SteamOS http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ and http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/ will allow for building your own box and they've got third parties working on a "broad range" of hardware options that will come pre-installed with the OS.
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