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OS X Yosemite

460 points| salimmadjd | 11 years ago |apple.com | reply

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[+] bratsche|11 years ago|reply
Since nobody has mentioned it yet here, I'm really glad to see AirDrop will finally work between OSX and iOS. It's bothered me for awhile that they have these two different things called "AirDrop" which were not compatible with one another.
[+] jpace121|11 years ago|reply
The lack of AirDrop integration before is probably one of the obnoxious things Apple has done recently. I'm really excited for this simple new feature.
[+] rayiner|11 years ago|reply
HandOff is the kind of thing I'm surprised took so long. Honestly, I was expecting MS to get something like it first. After all, your Windows Phone already runs Windows, right?
[+] bri3d|11 years ago|reply
I'm especially shocked this has taken so long because the technology is ancient:

Windows has had a "Use this computer as a Bluetooth Headset" option buried in the Bluetooth preferences for a long time now.

The Address Book in Mac OS 10.0 and 10.1 would also let you send and receive SMSes with compatible phones (no joke):

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/wireless/2002/11/27/sms.html

And Linux has had a few projects (like nohands) which do the same thing.

[+] mcintyre1994|11 years ago|reply
It's like Pushbullet built into both OSes with the polish that entails. Absolutely genius. I hope Google builds Pushbullet or something very similar into Chrome and Android, that integration is awesome.
[+] blisse|11 years ago|reply
They kind of already have something like it with the roaming storage on 8.1, there's just not enough crazy interested developers on the platform trying to push the limits of the sdk, and MS hasn't really advertised all the neat stuff well.
[+] unknown|11 years ago|reply

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[+] badman_ting|11 years ago|reply
> After all, your Windows Phone already runs Windows, right?

A very philosophical question indeed.

[+] dfc|11 years ago|reply

  > With this new design, OS X...now looks a bit more like iOS 7, but
  > there is still quite a bit of depth. Indeed, more than flat, the
  > design almost seems to focus more on translucency than anything else.
The above is an incomprehensible collection of words to me. I am not sure if this is because of my lack of an intimate connection to Apple products, terrible writing or some combination of the two.
[+] dirkgently|11 years ago|reply
When design of an _Operation System_ boils down to just how "truculent" and "flat" (but with "a bit of depth") it is, you know we are talking less about the Operating System and more about the GUI/Window Manager.
[+] Gracana|11 years ago|reply
That does seem to be a bit of a jumble. I think what they're trying to convey is that although it uses flat design like iOS 7, on the desktop it has a feeling of depth due to the layering of translucent UI elements.

Maybe.

[+] jamra|11 years ago|reply
I'm running Yosemite now. The same feel you get from iOS 7 UI is prevalent in the OS. They flattened the window headers. They flattened the toolbar on the bottom. They flattened the status bar on top. It makes for more of a content-focused approach.

The translucency they speak of is in regards to the side menus in apps. In order to give a dynamic feel to the UI, they added some translucency like they have in some iOS 7 apps.

[+] colmvp|11 years ago|reply
I interpret it as using translucency to add depth instead of adhering to true flatness doesn't have gradients or shading.
[+] RivieraKid|11 years ago|reply
What part don't you understand? I find it pretty clear.
[+] bane|11 years ago|reply
I'm really looking forward to this. Unlike iOS7, the flatter design here doesn't make me feel like a bunch of amateur artists got a hold of a free copy of Adobe Illustrator. I actually like the new look quite a bit. Now, to pray that they've made some under the hood progress on multi-monitor support.

Moving work back and forth from desktop to mobile also sounds really amazing. I get a hint of it when working with gmail or drive, but this sounds much more deeply integrated. Google will have to respond, and this makes me happy.

[+] mwarkentin|11 years ago|reply
There were multi-monitor updates in Mavericks - fixed most of my issues. What's still an issue for you?
[+] thisisdallas|11 years ago|reply
I honestly don't understand this design direction. I know it's nice to have a change but from the few screens I have seen on the Verge it looks like something that came from one of those "I redesigned OS X" blog posts.
[+] cmelbye|11 years ago|reply
Probably because those posts took heavy inspiration from the visual appearance of iOS 7, of which the new OS X design is based off of.
[+] currysausage|11 years ago|reply
Am I the only one here who hates to see Lucida Grande be replaced with Neue Helvetica Aslightaspossible?

Eager to see how it looks on non-retina displays.

[+] quackerhacker|11 years ago|reply
The upgrades to Safari look amazing! [0] Less chrome, Javascript benchmarks (impressive), and the spotlight search in the url...nice! I hope Apple changes the zoom button to maximize the screen.

[0] https://www.apple.com/osx/preview/apps/

[+] buckbova|11 years ago|reply
> Apple has done away with the faux-3D shelf look here and has put the icons on a simple translucent background instead.

I like the faux 3d dock . . . it'd be nice if this was configurable.

[+] Joeri|11 years ago|reply
When they switched from the 2d dock to the 3d dock a lot of people said the same thing.

I like how apple is slowly reversing their design decisions. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the return of the spatial finder ;)

[+] Gracana|11 years ago|reply
It might be. There are two different style options for it right now, aren't there?

[edit] That's not a rhetorical question; I'm not at home with my mac so I don't know for sure.

[+] syncsynchalt|11 years ago|reply
There was a "defaults" option for a flat dock in 10.7 and 10.8... one wonders why they removed it for 10.9, only to change the default back to flat in 10.10.
[+] cosmc|11 years ago|reply
I'm not a fan of the flat design personally, but the redesign is pretty sharp. I like the minimal safari UI; its nice when the browser lets the webpage be main focus and I think it is something Safari does best.
[+] davis_m|11 years ago|reply
Spotlight seems an awful lot like Alfred now. http://www.alfredapp.com/
[+] sdfjkl|11 years ago|reply
Alfred does a lot more than that. But yes, the inspiration is obvious (and Alfred itself was inspired by Quicksilver).
[+] allan_|11 years ago|reply
As seen on a the screenshot for the new notification center calendar, the Life of an Apple user begins at 10:00 with a crossfit session. After that it is not that you go to work then. Relaxing talk with Anne on the phone, maybe talking a little business on the side, but not to rough. After Lunch you do not start to work either. Just let out all those wise thoughts gathered while living your apple lifestyle in a fresh stream, like you do.
[+] J-H|11 years ago|reply
Really like the new design, but I think the coolest new thing is HandOff. The new Spotlight search is cool, too.
[+] jeffcox|11 years ago|reply
Agreed. The UI design isn't even worth mentioning if they really make it seamless to go from device to device. I'd love to leave my phone in another room and just use my tablet/computer while at home.
[+] scrumper|11 years ago|reply
Not a great article: new features trumpeted include Spotlight's ability to search for mail messages and contacts, and a Private Browsing mode for Spotlight - both of which are pretty long-standing features.

These things tend to get rushed out, but maybe TC could have waited just a few more minutes to weed out the obvious stinkers.

[+] kylec|11 years ago|reply
Was this originally a TC link? Because it now points to the Apple.com page for OS X Yosemite, and some of the comments elsewhere in this thread no longer make sense. I didn't know it was possible for mods to change the link associated with a story, and now that I know I wish they wouldn't do it.
[+] klrr|11 years ago|reply
Those bars looks surprisingly close to GNOMEs' ones.
[+] dev1n|11 years ago|reply
If possible, could someone from the Apple community please tell me if Yosemite will be faster / lighter than snow leopard? I don't want an OS that requires 8 gigs of ram to run "fast" like Mavericks requires.
[+] crymer11|11 years ago|reply
Hopefully they've spent some time on Messages; it's by far the buggiest app of theirs I've used in quite some time.
[+] mweibel|11 years ago|reply
+1

I hope that they finally fix groupchats across devices. Always have about 5 different conversations with the same 2 people and each message goes seemingly randomly in one conversation.

[+] X-Istence|11 years ago|reply
There are a lot of changes in Messages, for one, it will also be able to send/receive SMS's if you have an iPhone to pair it with.