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Google Loon balloon crashes near Yakima

97 points| gregholmberg | 11 years ago |blogs.seattletimes.com

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[+] gregholmberg|11 years ago|reply
In the 90s, I would sometimes trip over ethernet cables that had been strung between server racks, across an aisle.

Will this be the decade where I get to experience being struck by falling routers and switches, far from any data center?

(EDIT: Simply remarking on novelty of problem and upward growth of network. No criticism of any firm implied or intended.)

[+] trhway|11 years ago|reply
>Will this be the decade where I get to experience being struck by falling routers and switches,

especially if the falling equipment identifies you as the softest landing spot in the vicinity (thus providing for lesser damage to / higher chances of the equipment survival :)

> far from any data center?

until off course it is the air borne (near-space) datacenter itself.

[+] partomniscient|11 years ago|reply
The children's story will have to be revised.

Chicken little decided to go for a walk outside and was killed when the internet fell on him. The sky continued unabated.

[+] kordless|11 years ago|reply
The word 'crashes' could easily be substituted with 'drifted into'.
[+] gregholmberg|11 years ago|reply
Dropping at 2000 feet per minute is not quite free fall, but it's a long way from a drifting dandelion seed. I wonder if the balloon payload left a crater.
[+] kidcoach|11 years ago|reply
I grew up outside of Yakima. Northern/Eastern Washington State has some very desolate places, maybe that area will be the actual user testing ground too.
[+] lotsofmangos|11 years ago|reply
There is something almost poetic in this. The perils of accidental infrastructural intercourse.
[+] ibrad|11 years ago|reply
I would still go for cables on the ground ... or underground.
[+] sukuriant|11 years ago|reply
There are definitely advantages to being completely wireless, building permits being one of them.
[+] slm_HN|11 years ago|reply
I like that the article referred to it as a trial balloon.
[+] pcvarmint|11 years ago|reply
Time for Bale Breaker Field 41 :)
[+] tim333|11 years ago|reply
Guess that's a hazzard of balloons all over the place. Hope one does not take out a jet.
[+] Sanddancer|11 years ago|reply
Balloons are launched all the time, Google's balloons are no different than the many many weather balloons, etc everyday. Their regulations are pretty easy [1] to find and follow. Basically, you call them, let them know when and where it's going up, when and where it's going down, and they'll put out a notice that pilots look at letting them know that there's a balloon out there they should look out for. If it gets loose, you call them again, say where you think it's going, etc, and they'll update the notifications accordingly. Stuff like this has been handled for a very long time.

[1] http://www.chem.hawaii.edu/uham/part101.html

[+] jacquesm|11 years ago|reply
The chances of hitting a jet are remote, the balloon would have to loiter at the right altitude for that chance to increase appreciably. Most will go higher, pop and then fall.

The barrage balloons of WW-II had to be anchored very carefully to avoid having them go into the stratosphere. As the balloon expands (which it does when it goes higher) it will become more buoyant, not less so there is a positive feedback loop in there which usually ends in destruction unless you take precautions. Such anchoring requires very long cables, which makes them a bad choice to defend against jets.

So, the risks are non-zero and if one were to get sucked into a jet engine (especially the payload portion) the mayhem would be considerable, but they are so small that a 'notice to airmen' suffices unless you're operating very close to an airfield when you launch.

What is interesting about this incident is how far the balloon came down from where it was launched, it must have travelled for a long time, maybe even circumnavigated the globe more than once before landing.

[+] onion2k|11 years ago|reply
Jet aircraft are a little more manoeuvrable than power lines.