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ronaldx | 11 years ago

It's not uneducated to use Occam's razor: if someone tests as not being the mother, they almost always are not the mother. This is an every day occurrence.

Chimerism is a possible explanation but vanishingly unlikely. Two identified cases, ever (i.e. none before this).

This is news because it's exceptional.

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voidlogic|11 years ago

I'm not disagreeing with you in thinking the scam is more likely at first glance, but as soon as there was compelling evidence it was not a scam, the professionals involved should have shared their awareness of the obvious biological possibly.

The smoking gun in this case that there was not a scam, but something more going on is the fact that she was her kids aunt.

ronaldx|11 years ago

Apologies for editing my point above.

Chimerism is well-studied because it's biologically interesting, but most social/medical professionals are not expected to come across human chimerism in their whole career.

Chimerism not often documented in humans and the other possibilities (e.g. surrogacy scam) are hugely more probable explanations.

seacious|11 years ago

We don't really know how common chimerism, because it is expensive to test for. It requires sampling many different tissues/ parts of the body and comparing the gentic material found in each. Some kinds of chimerism are easy to detect and are believed to be relatively common. See: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.149...

rcthompson|11 years ago

What if a woman tests specifically as being the aunt instead of the mother, but also all her sisters (if any) test as aunts? Do we assume that the woman had a sister that none of her other sisters knew about, who she hid in the basement her whole life, impregnated with the woman's husband's sperm, raised the child as her own, repeated this several times, and then finally murdered the sister and hid her body?

cmiles74|11 years ago

I would disagree: it's certainly uneducated to use Occam's Razor as an excuse to be lazy, or perhaps to ruin another person's life based on one piece of evidence. The children's father vouched for her, she has witnesses to the birth of these children, etc. In fact, everything lines up with the children being hers except the DNA test results.

I would argue Occam's Razor decides against such a large conspiracy and, instead, points to problems with the test.

josu|11 years ago

>The state was still so suspicious of Fairchild that when she gave birth to another child, a court officer stood in the delivery room to witness an immediate DNA test.

If you go as far as that, why wouldn't you test mitochondrial DNA? Using Ocamm's razor myself, I will speculate that she wasn't able to get a very good lawyer.

ronaldx|11 years ago

I see no reason why a mitochondrial DNA test would be helpful - your point is that the mitochondria are maternally inherited?

1. Mitochondrial DNA is less apt than regular DNA to accurately identify motherhood since it has a low mutation rate.

2. The mitochondria would still come from the chimeric cells which still are a generation away from the mother's cells.

3. If you have have considered the possibility of chimerism, there are much simpler tests - e.g. the tests that they did do.

Someone|11 years ago

"Chimerism is a possible explanation but vanishingly unlikely. Two identified cases, ever (i.e. none before this)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)#Humans gives an earlier case and references http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.149..., which states blood type chimerism occurs in 8% of twins, 21% of triplets.

So, chimerism in the broad sense isn't that rare. I have no idea whether that is different from what is described here, but I would think it isn't. Those blood cells have to come from somewhere.

Chimerism also occurs as a result of organ transplants.

nraynaud|11 years ago

there is no Occam's razor when you're doing an in depth investigation. Either they do a cursory DNA test or they try testing the father too, and then everything is in depth.

(well I come form a country where the judicial system is inquisitory, not accusatory, so maybe I'm biased in my point of view)

khc|11 years ago

"It's a rare condition called chimerism, with only 30 documented cases worldwide."

It's very rare but not THAT rare.