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Opera 24 for Linux released on the Developer stream

71 points| tagawa | 11 years ago |blogs.opera.com | reply

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[+] Aoyagi|11 years ago|reply
As someone who was left behind with Opera 12, I have mixed feelings about this.
[+] binarycrusader|11 years ago|reply
As someone who was left even farther behind with Opera 10.11 (last version for Solaris), I'll never use Opera again:

  http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=solaris-intel&list=all
But more seriously, even if I could get past that, I see no obvious, compelling reason to use Opera when I already have FireFox 29+ available to me.
[+] thomasahle|11 years ago|reply
What's so great about Opera 12?
[+] scrollaway|11 years ago|reply
Opera really went a step backwards a while back when they switched from Qt to GTK "For better compatibility with desktop environments", while DEs were themselves busy switching to Qt.

I hope they will correct that soon.

[+] evilpie|11 years ago|reply
I actually have been looking into how hard it would be to get Firefox based on Qt useful again. Maybe someone would be interested in helping?
[+] hrjet|11 years ago|reply
> DEs were themselves busy switching to Qt.

Interesting. I know only of KDE. Are there others? (Genuine question)

[+] marcoms|11 years ago|reply
At least they don't have to use C++
[+] rasz_pl|11 years ago|reply
Still no customizability? Still no features from 12.xx? Still reskinned Chromium? Why bother? ;/
[+] mrweasel|11 years ago|reply
I can understand Opera not wanting to maintain their own rendering engine, except that I though that was their main source of income. What I can't understand is why they release the WebKit/Blink based Opera when they did.

They shipped a version of "Opera" without the stuff that people loved and bet that it was the brand that people loved. I used very few of the features in Opera 12, but I switched to Firefox when the new version shipped because they made it harder to get the privacy settings I want and I can't make DuckDuckGo the default search engine (honestly: Is that really so hard to do?)

Dragonfly, the Opera web developer tool is another thing I would have loved to be able to use, but I will accept that it's a bit harder to port and wouldn't be a day one feature.

What they done in the past 12 version is beyond me, I don't see that adding anything important or bringing back anything that people actually want.

Dear Opera please fix:

- Customizable DEFAULT search engines.

- Bring back Opera Link.

- Bring back DragonFly (When you have the time).

If it saves time you can drop:

- Speed Dial

- Stash ( Serious question: Who needs that? )

- Discover, see question regarding Stash.

- Theme support, see question regarding Stash.

[+] stepanbujnak|11 years ago|reply
Last Opera release for linux was 12.16. That's about 12 skipped updates (I just assume, I'm not familiar with the actual opera versioning) and that's unacceptable. What guarantee does Opera give me that this won't happen again and I won't be stuck with outdated browser for a year?
[+] Seldaek|11 years ago|reply
There is a bit of history and context needed here I think. The last Opera 12 was released about a year ago. Last year they announced they would switch to using Blink instead of their own rendering engine.

The engine switch came with a complete rewrite of their browser as far as I understand it, so they prioritized Windows/OSX stability for a year and now finally came up with a Linux build again. The big gap in version numbers is due to their new browser starting at 15 + the adoption of a much shorter release cycle.

Once Linux builds are made stable I expect they will continue to release builds on all 3 platforms as they were doing for the many years before this slightly extreme shift.

[+] jccalhoun|11 years ago|reply
Opera switched from their own engine, Presto, to using Chrome's Blink engine. They probably won't be switching engines again any time soon.
[+] bla2|11 years ago|reply
> not all of us want proprietary operating systems

Not sure if these people want to use a proprietary browser.

[+] rawland|11 years ago|reply
Opera, please open source the discontinued Opera 12!
[+] rplnt|11 years ago|reply
I'm still sticking with 11/12. It's pain to use any other browser. Performance is worse, ux is worse, basic functionality is missing, weird bugs everywhere. Now I use combination of Opera, Firefox and Chrome (for js heavy apps like gmail). Eventually want to switch to Firefox.

It's really sad they let everything go and made just another dumbed-down featureless browser.

[+] jccalhoun|11 years ago|reply
The "about" page in Opera 12 lists a lot of 3rd party stuff so even though a lot of that stuff is open source software it seems unlikely they would be able to open source everything.
[+] rebugger|11 years ago|reply
Who would have expected that? Maybe this can be a userfriendlier alternative to Chromium? All that is missing: opensource it.
[+] thristian|11 years ago|reply
Well, it's basically just Chromium, so I doubt it would ever be more user-friendly, and effectively it is open-sourced.
[+] finishingmove|11 years ago|reply
Ironically, this happens the day after I finally stopped using Opera. As a long time Windows and Opera user, I finally switched to Ubuntu a few days ago, and frankly wasn't so surprised to find out that Opera is not even supported. All the things that made it good died with 12.16 and this was just the last drop in a sea of users' tears. Now, having it suddenly available again, I don't feel like going back there anymore. Goodbye, although I can't help but feel the real goodbye was said a long time ago -- what came after was just denial.
[+] brokenparser|11 years ago|reply
Does it still come with mail and bit torrent clients?
[+] anonymfus|11 years ago|reply
No. IRC and RSS/Atom also not supported.
[+] Osiris|11 years ago|reply
Opera Mail is a separate download, still using the old Opera 12 code base. I use it because I have multiple email accounts and it allows me to use them all as a unified inbox.

However, it's still at version 1.0. It hasn't received a single update since it was released and it has a few annoying bugs. It's still the best desktop email client though.

[+] steanne|11 years ago|reply
one CAN switch the default search engine in Opera 12 (which is good, because i ain't switchin'.)

a) drop down the search bar and pick manage search.

b) pick the provider you want as default and hit edit.

c) hit the details button.

d) select the tick boxes for "use as default" and "use as speed dial".

[+] lurkinggrue|11 years ago|reply
WOW! I never expected they would do it. Shame it's still Opera 24.
[+] Miraries|11 years ago|reply
The incompatibility with websites on old Opera was enough for me to temporarily switch to Chrome. Now I'm making freaking extensions which bring some Presto features to it so it's more usable until Opera makes some significant changes to the new browser...