[alexkus]

I just can't get excited about vim plugins (no matter how good they are, no matter how much I love vi/vim - and no disrespect to their authors). I can imagine how they could increase my productivity (to some extent) but...

I'm old school, I work happily with vi, many of the customers I dealt with going back to the mid-90s never gave me a choice. SunOS 4.1.3U5 (ugh). AIX 3. Heady days of Solaris 2.5. Bog standard vi. vim is a bonus, but I'm far from lost when it's just vi. I love macros, but I can still get stuff done if they aren't available. If there's no vi then I'm not lost either, I can work around stuff with awk/sed/etc.

Fundamentally I don't want to have to ever install a bunch of stuff in multiple places to create a common environment for myself. That's a big problem that hasn't been solved yet. I just want it to be the same everywhere, which is why I don't rely on zsh or even ksh, and I just go for the bare minimum.

I've been to too many customers to know that not being able to do stuff within someone else's environment is really not a good thing. I've seen people escorted off customer sites because they've been ineffectual.

But, the biggest takeway is that I've seen too many new employees/interns that are lost without their expected favoured environment, and it's not getting better. vim plugins aside, there's a growing lack of adaptability.

[pgl]

> If there's no vi

How often are you in a situation where there's no vi!?

[alexkus]

Occasionally, usually over zealous stripping back of machines in very controlled environments[1].

1. I don't do much work with these kinds of customers any more as I chose not to go for security clearance (on purpose, as this is a convenient way of avoiding these kinds of customers).

[gipp]

Eh, I use a large number of the top plugins in the OP, but I've never had any trouble dropping back to "vanilla" vi/m in ssh shells or whatever. It's just a matter of convenience; there's nothing there that's so totally transformational that you won't be able to use vim without it.

[thenerdfiles]

This site could implement an ACL though github accounts and provide centralized, recipe-like plugin and *rc file mashups like alias.sh with an ifttt.com twist.