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IntelliJ IDEA 14 Early Preview is Available

85 points| emanuelez | 11 years ago |blog.jetbrains.com

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gadr90|11 years ago

I would love it if they focused on performance improvements and making the editor more lightweight overall. I love WebStorm, but even on my beastly XPS running nothing but it and Chrome, it sometimes hangs doing nothing. I'm starting to investigate other editors such as Atom because of this. I find it hard to believe that a quad core, modern computer can possibly have a hard time running a text editor.

viraptor|11 years ago

Google a bit for adjusting GC settings in idea - stuff like http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/04/configuring-intellij-... (old, but check the comments). I'm not using it anymore, so can't find what I ended up with, but adjusting the startup options made a huge difference 2 years ago.

I think I also went for one of the experimental/less stable concurrent collectors - didn't find any issues in practice.

maaaats|11 years ago

I have opposite experiences. Compared with other big IDEs IntelliJ gives much more help/features compared to resources used, for me.

lazzlazzlazz|11 years ago

My relatively old laptop runs IntelliJ and PyCharm like a dream... Atom runs sluggishly. I ditched Atom quickly.

userbinator|11 years ago

Is it a CPU bottleneck (cores being at 100% would be a good sign of this), or memory running low and causing swapfile use (high HDD activity)? Without any further info I'm leaning toward the latter, as you have both a Java application and a browser possibly running lots of JavaScript, and both being GC'd languages means they'll be competing for memory rather aggressively.

Glide|11 years ago

Atom uses a lot of resources compared to other text editors. IDEs aren't just text editors though. WebStorm is probably slower than people's experience with IDEA because the languages you use on it don't play to an IDE's strengths.

thejosh|11 years ago

Agreed, I run on Ubuntu for my main machine and it performs quite badly under that, and the fonts are terrible.

Yes you can patch them using some system wide font fix, but that makes everything else look like garbage.

tomjen3|11 years ago

I had that problem with webstorm. You can tweak the gc settings.

tobltobs|11 years ago

Are you using windows?

kamilafsar|11 years ago

I hope they're going to fix the Scala and Play plugins. Unfortunately they say nothing about it. Sometimes the lag between typing and actually seeing it in Idea is a couple of seconds.. Still better than the last time I tried Scala IDE (eclipse) though.

GyrosOfWar|11 years ago

Yeah, that's definitely an issue. The Scala auto-complete is not very responsive, which makes the whole IDE experience with Scala pretty undesirable, sadly. I've been using IDEA with Java in the last ~2 months and it was perfectly smooth all the time. I guess Scala is a lot more complex as a language than Java, which makes parsing it on the fly much harder.

wernerb|11 years ago

I don't know how long ago you tried the scala plugin. But I had the same bug when writing strings. What ultimately fixed it was disabling i18n support in the scala plugin preferences. I haven't had a single freeze/stutter since.

acjohnson55|11 years ago

Scala and Play support is already vastly ahead of where it was just 6 months ago, but there's definitely more room for improvement. The overall intelligence of the IDE is still sorely lacking versus what you get for, say, Java. I'd love to see a lot more support for intelligent editing of SBT files, more intuitive ways of finding usages of instances and types, working with implicits, and refactorings that align with Scala's abstractions. It seems like such a powerful language should have an IDE that gives you more ability to access those features.

Also, I find the code style settings to be extremely difficult to tweak, in large part due to poor browsability and also because you can't actually see them applied to the example code next to the settings editor.

hodortime|11 years ago

I haven't used the play plugin that much, but I've been very happy with the Scala plugin. In fact it's the only reason I switched to intellij. The only annoying bug I've encountered is bogus error notifications in Java code due to the ide ignoring Scala throws annotations on methods that java is calling.

flavor8|11 years ago

I reported a series of bugs about the Java / Play plugin a couple weeks back. The support guy did some investigation and filed a few internal tickets...so they're working on it.

broodbucket|11 years ago

Agreed. In the meantime, I've switched to Ensime. Takes some getting used to but it's very nice.

rational-future|11 years ago

Hmmm, I never had such a problem with Scala and Idea. How big are the projects you're working on? Maybe your computer is just slow.

eng_monkey|11 years ago

Is this another minor release disguised as a major release in order make old customers renew the licence?

I say this because I did not notice any major improvements between 12 and 13, but still I had to pay for a new licence.

reitanqild|11 years ago

My complaint is they assigned obvious and easy to fix bugs (not improvements ot new features) to next paid release. Thats were they lost me as a paying customer.

maaaats|11 years ago

If you didn't feel you got anything useful in the new version, why pay for it?

_random_|11 years ago

I hope they will add C#+Xamarin support when their project N arrives. Sell for 30% of Visual Studio price: win for everyone (except MS).

bitL|11 years ago

I don't think that's gonna ever happen. That would cannibalize ReSharper for C# sales which are bound to Visual Studio and cause a cool down in the relationship with Microsoft. Sure way to go out of business.

pweissbrod|11 years ago

Wouldnt the increased accessibility to the C# language be of benefit to MS?

dominotw|11 years ago

Wow this is magnitudes slower that 13 CE. What gives? Can I turn off something(plugins?) to make it faster?

mdaniel|11 years ago

If you are experiencing quirks like that, please report them via http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/ since that is the whole purpose of an EAP program. I don't think you will receive support for your specific problem via the tracker, but at least they will be aware that such a condition exists.

If you want help, http://devnet.jetbrains.com/community/idea/ideacommunity will probably be a great place to start. I have found their forums to be responsive and to have a pretty good signal/noise ratio.

agildehaus|11 years ago

You wait a while. It's not final code, it's an early-access preview.

jwn|11 years ago

Is there any discussion about IntelliJ supporting multiple open projects at once? Requiring a separate window for each project breaks down when I've got 21 projects open, as I have now in NetBeans.

jasonwocky|11 years ago

Not to sound snippy, but how do you define projects in your world, and how do you benefit from having 21 of them open at once? How many do you interact with in a typical day?

That setup is so far removed from my day-to-day experience that I'm genuinely seeking understanding here. At most, I typically have 3 or 4 open "projects" at once, and those would be fairly tightly related (like, a server codebase and a couple of clients for it).

bpodgursky|11 years ago

Have you looked into setting up your projects as modules? I have dozens of modules in a project with no issues. If the projects are related there are benefits like source code linking too.