Not to a moderator; to a YC partner. Moderators' Hacker News looks different, and you're going to have to wait till one of us leaks another screenshot to see it.
I feel like since it was we who slipped up, fair game rules say we owe you guys an explanation of what those bells and whistles do (warning: you may find it disappointingly mundane), so I'll come back and post some more in this thread later. By coincidence, however, I was out all day, so had better catch up with anything important first.
Edit: Ok, I think I've answered all the questions about details. But let me add the most important point here.
The interface that you see in that screenshot is not actually used by anyone [1]. Those links are there for legacy reasons. Their principal role at present is to lure YC partners into accidentally fat-fingering things. (Don't worry; that doesn't happen often, and we see it in the logs and correct it.) They don't exist in the YC-partner version of Kevin's new HN markup, so they won't be around much longer.
1. The only exception I can think of is that Trevor occasionally helps out with moderation.
Am I really the only one who noticed that there are now women in some of the photos, as well as someone who is non-white/Asian? The design changes are great, too, but this seems a little more significant in terms of messaging. YC has been making more of an effort recently but it was always difficult for me to get past the fact that, according to their own photos, JL is the only woman there, or the only one worth showing in a photo. (This is coming from someone who was wanting to be able to like YC whole-heartedly, not someone looking for controversy.)
I do actually think it's something that gets noticed, just maybe not always on a conscious level, so this is a great and welcomed (and more welcoming) change. Well done, y'all.
One of my mottoes is that if you want to get unusual
results, work fast and work cheap, because there's more
of a chance that you'll get somewhere that nobody else
did.
Nearly always, the effect of spending a lot of money is
to make things more normal.
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The "partners" page doesn't mention the founders of YC or differentiate them from the other partners. Obviously there was a reason for this. Can you elaborate?
Yes! Kevin is amazing. He gave me a sneak peak of the design last week, but it's really amazing. I love all the wonderfully thought out but small details, like how good the FAQ page is.
Seems odd to say "application period is over! Here's an APPLY button!"
Also, S14 seems like an abbreviation that wouldn't be meaningful to non-YC-faithful. Curse of knowledge?
Suggest something like: "Applications open for Winter '15 soon. <link>Get notified</link>" (allowing people to get an email ping when it opens up?) You could have a link to the (non-useful but still educational) "apply" link in the FAQ? Or better yet, if they choose to get notified, say "great, we'll let you know. In the meantime, check out <link>last session's application</link>."
Minor nitpick. I didn't like the alignment of the YC logos on the top and bottom. They look a little misaligned. Maybe something like this is better ?: http://i.imgur.com/J1mzwJk.png (Removed all content except top and bottom)
Looks like the images only get loaded as you scroll down, which is a good feature that more sites should do. Seems like there's a fair amount of JavaScript being loaded here, I wonder what non-obvious stuff is happening?
Yeah, I've started using the 'load on demand' approach by default, unless the images are important. It can drastically improve load speed in a very simple way.
Where can I view a list of all of the past and current startups, their funding, their performance, their current status/worth, current employees, and links to their website in a nice sortable table?
Also, what would it take to get a page of old articles that I didn't view that might be interesting to me based on my previous article upvotes? That would be valuable.
The admin screenshot had several articles from a few months ago that I never saw and the only way for me to see them would be to manually search.
Nice,
in my opinion,Sans is better for Titles,and a serif font is better for the body of an article.
Also either push the header to the left,or align the left column with the top of the header,because right now the layout looks unbalanced.
EDIT :
In my opinion the left column is unnecessary.The site could work with 1 column,and the content of the left column could either be push in the header or a footer.
Just my 2 cents ;) Nice Job again,it's responsive !
I personally find serif harder to read as a body font on web pages, so I think their combo is fine. My gripe with the layout is that it's aligned to the left, so with my high-resolution monitor there is a ton of white space on the right side.
I think sans-serifs are better for small body text because of the limited amount of available pixels, especially ones that are created with screens in mind and are specifically handhinted to facilitate clarity and crispness.
Serifs are generally more appealing to the eye, but with limited resolutions (say, to 150ppi) can be shown in their full glory only in bigger sizes, making them great for titles on websites. My favorites are slab-serifs (Rockwell and Chunk Five work nice) or transitional serifs (I like Playfair Display) for titles, and something like Open Sans or Helvetica Neue for body text. Looks great :)
I love the new site design (on a macbook), but on windows, the font is not as crisp. I love that font on mac though. Which font should developers use if they want crispness in both mac and windows?
HTTPS giving me troubles, e.g. clicking through on footer links from HN: http://imgur.com/59cQ7G3
On an unrelated note (careful, Inception-style sentence coming up, and apologies if this has been mentioned before/isn't helpful), most of the footer links in the footer of the pages linked to in the footer of news.ycombinator.com lead to 404. Id est, click on a link in the footer, then click on a link in the footer of the page you just clicked to, 404 hey presto.
Solid redesign. Can't wait for a responsive version on hacker news. I use ihackernews.com now but I occasionally have trouble upvoting or commenting due to api rate limits.
[+] [-] minimaxir|11 years ago|reply
http://www.ycombinator.com/images/home/HackerNews.png
[+] [-] dang|11 years ago|reply
I feel like since it was we who slipped up, fair game rules say we owe you guys an explanation of what those bells and whistles do (warning: you may find it disappointingly mundane), so I'll come back and post some more in this thread later. By coincidence, however, I was out all day, so had better catch up with anything important first.
Edit: Ok, I think I've answered all the questions about details. But let me add the most important point here.
The interface that you see in that screenshot is not actually used by anyone [1]. Those links are there for legacy reasons. Their principal role at present is to lure YC partners into accidentally fat-fingering things. (Don't worry; that doesn't happen often, and we see it in the logs and correct it.) They don't exist in the YC-partner version of Kevin's new HN markup, so they won't be around much longer.
1. The only exception I can think of is that Trevor occasionally helps out with moderation.
[+] [-] nostromo|11 years ago|reply
Wouldn't that have the same effect as a voting ring?
[+] [-] wgx|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] Alupis|11 years ago|reply
Nice improvement! Much better than the old site! ;-)
[+] [-] Killah911|11 years ago|reply
EDIT: % after 'delete' on every submission
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[+] [-] zmitri|11 years ago|reply
The JS affix doesn't trigger off at the bottom so the sticky nav stays fixed http://i.imgur.com/YAqGVoL.png
Mixpanel's logo is forced display:none; on the homepage so it offsets the grid http://i.imgur.com/SV2dLq8.png
Overall this redesign is absolutely fantastic.
PS. Did the valuation required to get on the homepage go up a bit?
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[+] [-] lacus|11 years ago|reply
I do actually think it's something that gets noticed, just maybe not always on a conscious level, so this is a great and welcomed (and more welcoming) change. Well done, y'all.
[+] [-] talles|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] larrys|11 years ago|reply
http://www.ycombinator.com/partners/
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[+] [-] webwright|11 years ago|reply
This feels odd: http://monosnap.com/image/koDS9m3j3pz43AQVb2nHpuWwp4CGaq
Seems odd to say "application period is over! Here's an APPLY button!"
Also, S14 seems like an abbreviation that wouldn't be meaningful to non-YC-faithful. Curse of knowledge?
Suggest something like: "Applications open for Winter '15 soon. <link>Get notified</link>" (allowing people to get an email ping when it opens up?) You could have a link to the (non-useful but still educational) "apply" link in the FAQ? Or better yet, if they choose to get notified, say "great, we'll let you know. In the meantime, check out <link>last session's application</link>."
[+] [-] kevin|11 years ago|reply
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Also, what would it take to get a page of old articles that I didn't view that might be interesting to me based on my previous article upvotes? That would be valuable.
The admin screenshot had several articles from a few months ago that I never saw and the only way for me to see them would be to manually search.
[+] [-] aikah|11 years ago|reply
Also either push the header to the left,or align the left column with the top of the header,because right now the layout looks unbalanced.
EDIT :
In my opinion the left column is unnecessary.The site could work with 1 column,and the content of the left column could either be push in the header or a footer.
Just my 2 cents ;) Nice Job again,it's responsive !
[+] [-] RussianCow|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] thegeomaster|11 years ago|reply
Serifs are generally more appealing to the eye, but with limited resolutions (say, to 150ppi) can be shown in their full glory only in bigger sizes, making them great for titles on websites. My favorites are slab-serifs (Rockwell and Chunk Five work nice) or transitional serifs (I like Playfair Display) for titles, and something like Open Sans or Helvetica Neue for body text. Looks great :)
[+] [-] kevin|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] joeblau|11 years ago|reply
- https://twitter.com/paulg/status/484028786120216576
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HTTPS giving me troubles, e.g. clicking through on footer links from HN: http://imgur.com/59cQ7G3
On an unrelated note (careful, Inception-style sentence coming up, and apologies if this has been mentioned before/isn't helpful), most of the footer links in the footer of the pages linked to in the footer of news.ycombinator.com lead to 404. Id est, click on a link in the footer, then click on a link in the footer of the page you just clicked to, 404 hey presto.
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[+] [-] r_singh|11 years ago|reply
The old design gave YC an identity in my mind, and differentiated it from the rest of the web.
It conveyed to me that YC didn't have to follow web trends to get people on their website. I visited the website for its superb content.
Rather than making text harder to "digest", the simple display of useful information appealed to me, and was a refresher.
Perhaps, this may not be the preference of many other users.
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