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Swift for Rubyists: Optionals

17 points| nottombrown | 11 years ago |nottombrown.com

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anorwell|11 years ago

You don't touch on the fact that options act can act Monads (i.e., that you can invoke an operation on the inner value, conditional on whether or not the optional value is present). For example, an optional user translates naturally to an optional user.name.

I haven't tried swift, and it's not obvious to me from the swift documentation if their options support arbitrary transformations, or just method chaining. In ruby (with ActiveSupport) this is the difference between:

      might_be_nil.try(:method)
and

      might_be_nil.try { |value| my_function(value) }
The latter is more general and useful than the former.

krisdol|11 years ago

Is this different than setting a default value of nil to user?

    def print_favorite_dinosaur(user: nil)
or

    def print_favorite_dinosaur(user = nil)
Or is it effectively a different syntax for the same concept?

In either language, you still signal that the argument could be nil, and you still have to guard against it. Or so I think

nottombrown|11 years ago

In Swift, you have to signal and guard against the nil.

In ruby, you choose whether to signal and you choose whether to guard. Here are some ruby examples that may be more clear:

Does not signal

    user = User.find_by_favorite_dinosaur("Dromiceiomimus")
Does not guard

    def print_favorite_dinosaur(user)
        p "User's favorite dinosaur is #{user.dino})"
    end
Signals and guards

    def print_favorite_dinosaur(user)
        if user
            p "User's favorite dinosaur is #{user.dino})"
        else
            p "No user. (Let's assume she likes T-rexs)"
        end
    end

    possible_user = User.find_by_favorite_dinosaur("Dromiceiomimus")

    print_favorite_dinosaur(possible_user)

nottombrown|11 years ago

Author here. Let me know your thoughts, concerns, and favorite dinosaur.

notduncansmith|11 years ago

Nothing to do with the article, but I think it's interesting to see someone else with the "not#{first_name}#{last_name}" pattern. I didn't know that was a common thing.