[jpalioto]

Who uses Tor without VPN? When I'm using Tor, all Comcast sees is an encrypted tunnel to Private Internet Access.

[Houshalter]

Isn't Tor supposed to be an encrypted tunnel?

[jpalioto]

Yes. But, with VPN it looks something like this:

Me -> TOR encrypts data -> VPN encrypts data -> data goes through tunnel -> VPN decrypts data -> TOR encrypted data passes through first node -> TOR encrypted data passes through relay node -> TOR decrypts data as it passes through the exit node -> swish nothing but net

This gives protection from the ISP and from the VPN provider -- I have to trust neither.