Jeez FF really stepping up the game. Seems like 32 was released just yesterday.
I'm not sure if there are any performance issues since I switched to FF about a year ago when bought new laptop with SSD and 16 gigs of ram it's as fast as Chrome. As for webdev tools, they are not worse, you are just too used to webkit ones. I might even say that FF has better dev tools because you can modify request and re-send it.
I switched because Google is trying to integrate Google too much into Chrome. That's definitely not something I look in a browser since I would like it to be independent and not spy on what I type/do.
Anyway, if anyone who is contributing to FF reading this I just want to thank you for best browser ever.
> I'm not sure if there are any performance issues
I also use Firefox on a MacBook Pro(2014), I don't know if this existed before or not but, under battery > Apps using significant enery, Firefox is one of em', opening the same exact tabs on Safari doesn't show safari on the list
is this because apps that come with Apple are not included in the list or is Safari better at Energy consumption?
You still can't edit JS like you can in chrome devtools. This is such a boon and a basic thing, really, that I can't switch until they add it. Aside from that, yeah, FF is getting pretty good.
> Improved search experience through the location bar [1]
Really happy to see this one. Previously single-word searches were so slow that I'd usually have time to remember that they are slow, press C-e, and enter the same search term in the search bar, all before the browser realises there is no matching host and does a web search instead.
I really hope this also fixes Firefox's behavior with one word searches and misbehaving DNS servers. Previously, if your DNS server returned advertising for bad DNS queries, one word "searches" would result in displaying your DNS server's ad page (since Firefox did a DNS query, assuming you meant a hostname instead of a one word search). This has been broken behavior in Firefox for quite awhile, with no workaround other than to install a different omnibar. I don't understand why Mozilla thought treating single words as hostnames in the omnibar made sense for the majority of people, especially when the majority of people are also subjected to misbehaving DNS servers.
That's actually the thing I want to make sure I can entirely disable before even thinking of updating to FF33. I'm sick of browsers and other software trying their best to send as much data as they can to search engines (hi google). If I want to perform a search, I do it, period.
I know it's absolutely not the case for most users, though..
Especially if there's support for jquery-bound events as current inspectors are kinda useless for those (they link to jquery's internal binding functions)
So here's something I've noticed that's confused me about Firefox's cookie handling: I have cookies turned off, but a PREF cookie for google.com keeps getting set. I've even tried blocking cookies from google.com, but I still see this cookie. I turned off Do Not Track but haven't tried disabling SafeBrowsing or all my extensions, so maybe it is one of those. Has anyone noticed this, too?
Google's Safe Browsing API (malware and phishing protection) requires a cookie. But Firefox puts that cookie in a separate bucket than the one used for regular requests. If you have cookies enabled, you'll actually end up with two separate google.com "PREF" cookies - one for regular HTTP requests, and one just for for updating the Safe Browsing lists. Disabling Safe Browsing will prevent that cookie from every being sent, and should allow you to delete it (EDIT: modulo the cookie manager bug below).
Haven't verified your claim but according to the linked bug, one has to wonder, what the Mozilla folks have not understand what "no cookies" and DNT means.
Oh, and Google should _really_ provide their Safebrowsing API without a cookie, too. Youtube-nocookie.com works fine too....
I use Firefox as my main browser but that is, sadly, not true. Chrome remains faster, especially with js heavy webapplications. Some don't work in fx at all.
Interestingly this is not mentioned in this huge post, but according to http://arewefastyet.com/ Firefox JS is faster than Chrome and Safari in all benchmarks in both 32 and 64bit modes since quite a few month!
It used to be that Chrome marketing was pushing for this as being so much faster on Chrome than others so that's a pretty nice feat.
Because JS Speed don't matter any more, at least out of 90% of times for 90% of internet users.
Speed for casual users, means rendering speed, network speed, Browser and web page responsiveness, startup speed etc. Although Firefox did make many incremental steps over the years. It is still not anywhere near the Blink / Chromium offers such as Google Chrome and Opera.
e10s should make Firefox competitive. And its still quite a while before it lands.
The Latin1 optimization looks interesting. It seems like a big improvement for such a simple change (granted that it took one developer two months to do).
Activity Monitor reports that Firefox 32.0.3 is using 21 GB on my Mac. That makes for sluggish performance, even with 32 GB of RAM. Looking forward to trying Firefox 33.
If you go to about:memory, you can get a better breakdown of how memory is being used. If you see something that looks out of the ordinary, please file a bug in Bugzilla and add [MemShrink] to the whiteboard!
Your insane memory usage is probably due to some plugin or other. Adblock is known to consume something like 40mb per tab open for example, due to injecting a large stylesheet into every single page ever opened.
Wow, that is just insane. Checking right now, it uses ~950MB for me on GNU/Linux. That's with 14 tabs (among which 2 that use flash player) and 20 active add-ons (gestures, self-destructing cookies, header modifier, adblock plus, etc.).
CPython did something similar (though more expansive, it switches between 4 different internal encodings depending on string content: ASCII, latin1, UCS2 and UCS4) in 3.3 with the PEP 393 "Flexible String Representation". I wonder if this Moz change was independently reinvented or inspired by the FSR.
Please tell me, how to return the gray background in a new tab?
And how to return to the number rows and columns of picture thumbnails not decreased when the window changes at
half-screen, non-rounded thumbnails?
That new UI makes me sad...
still no cookie UI fix.... very disappointing, especially for an organization that claims to pride itself on protecting user privacy while dropping google analytics and google cookies on users... probably because they're so heavily dependent on google's money.
I'd be delighted to use FF on iPad. I do a lot of leisure browsing/reading and I want to support FF on all my devices. Is their stand still the same i.e. We refuse to bring Firefox to iOS until Apple lets us use our web engine ?
The "send to chromecast" feature on Firefox android app is awesome, but I was kinda hoping that they added this to the desktop application too. I know that stuff like this is usually left for add-ons, but there isn't a good firefox add on which does Chromecast, unlike the several options on the Chrome web store.
It's disappointing that the H.264 video player support is not open source. Most of the patents managed by MPEG-LA have expired, and the ones that remain are either encoding-side only or for features nobody uses much, like interlace. Check out the patent lists.
I think Firefox 33 also enables Direct3D 11 rendering on Windows. Can anyone confirm? I've just been digging through bugzilla and can't find a clear reference to that, but it's an interesting change if so.
Since upgrading to the last version (32), Firefox has become a significant resource hog on my machine. It has become considerably worse than any other browser. Has anyone else had this issue?
I had a real problem updating from 31 to 32. What usually is done automatically did not work. It kept on asking me if I would like to, and after saying yes it just kept stalling. This was in 2 different workplaces and at home, where I have not had trouble before.
I ended up having to download it from the website, which was not an obvious experience.
Note: Firefox currently uses OpenH264 only for WebRTC and not for the <video> tag, because OpenH264 does not yet support the high profile format frequently used for streaming video. We will reconsider this once support has been added.
YouTube usually already works as long as you don't have the Flash plugin installed (YouTube uses Flash by default for many videos even if you've opted in to the HTML5 beta) since they've transcoded most of the video to WebM.
In any case, the bug to watch for OS X is actually different: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1062654 That uses Apple's system implementation so it has great performance and it currently appears to be slated for Firefox 35; use the Nightly builds if you want it now and like to live dangerously.
I am currently running Win10 Dev preview full fledged on a daily work machine. Off topic, Win 10 works great except for a few USB bugs not allowing me to format USB drives.
My usage is not as high as im reading. But a lot of my usage comes from Adblock. I have 5 browser windows open, with about 5-10 tabs each, im currently @ 760mb on Win 10.
A nice bug I get is from Firebug. When I am debugging a site, and I try to hover over my Taskbar icons to grab a new window, it flashes for about 2 seconds on whatever im hovering, and I have to try again, the second try usually leaves my taskbar windows open. If I close Firebug, this problem stops.
I also notice when I run flash (I stream mixtapes from datpiff.com), my usage goes sky high. I have been trying some debug options in about:config, and I think I have knocked the usage down by modifying a few lines.
Also another bug I experience on Win10 with Firefox is my top bar will completely disappear, I have to alt+F4 to close out Firefox and re-open. Maybe Firefox 33 will fix some of these issues.
* I managed to fix my top bar issue within minutes of my post. Don't know why, but I decided to add a skin to my Firefox ui - this fixed my issue 100% it seems, I am not getting the error at all anymore
[+] [-] romanovcode|11 years ago|reply
I'm not sure if there are any performance issues since I switched to FF about a year ago when bought new laptop with SSD and 16 gigs of ram it's as fast as Chrome. As for webdev tools, they are not worse, you are just too used to webkit ones. I might even say that FF has better dev tools because you can modify request and re-send it.
I switched because Google is trying to integrate Google too much into Chrome. That's definitely not something I look in a browser since I would like it to be independent and not spy on what I type/do.
Anyway, if anyone who is contributing to FF reading this I just want to thank you for best browser ever.
[+] [-] magicalist|11 years ago|reply
Every six weeks, as it's been for like three years now...
[+] [-] nnethercote|11 years ago|reply
Thank you. The web is full of criticism, so it's nice to get compliments sometimes.
[+] [-] Yoric|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] scope|11 years ago|reply
I also use Firefox on a MacBook Pro(2014), I don't know if this existed before or not but, under battery > Apps using significant enery, Firefox is one of em', opening the same exact tabs on Safari doesn't show safari on the list
is this because apps that come with Apple are not included in the list or is Safari better at Energy consumption?
[+] [-] kangax|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] nemetroid|11 years ago|reply
Really happy to see this one. Previously single-word searches were so slow that I'd usually have time to remember that they are slow, press C-e, and enter the same search term in the search bar, all before the browser realises there is no matching host and does a web search instead.
1: http://msujaws.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/faster-and-snappier-...
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[+] [-] ljk|11 years ago|reply
forgot to do that for a search this morning and found this has been fixed!
[+] [-] riquito|11 years ago|reply
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspecto...
[+] [-] masklinn|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] pjmlp|11 years ago|reply
One of the things I really hate in web development is tracking down who is messing up the events.
[+] [-] pontjho|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] mbrubeck|11 years ago|reply
Google's Safe Browsing API (malware and phishing protection) requires a cookie. But Firefox puts that cookie in a separate bucket than the one used for regular requests. If you have cookies enabled, you'll actually end up with two separate google.com "PREF" cookies - one for regular HTTP requests, and one just for for updating the Safe Browsing lists. Disabling Safe Browsing will prevent that cookie from every being sent, and should allow you to delete it (EDIT: modulo the cookie manager bug below).
UPDATE: It looks like http://bugzil.la/1026538 is why the cookie keeps reappearing.
[+] [-] handsomeransoms|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] spacefight|11 years ago|reply
Oh, and Google should _really_ provide their Safebrowsing API without a cookie, too. Youtube-nocookie.com works fine too....
[+] [-] ewang1|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] zobzu|11 years ago|reply
It used to be that Chrome marketing was pushing for this as being so much faster on Chrome than others so that's a pretty nice feat.
[+] [-] ksec|11 years ago|reply
e10s should make Firefox competitive. And its still quite a while before it lands.
[+] [-] Spiritus|11 years ago|reply
- Builtin support for Keychain (without relying on an extension).
- swipe-animation when going forward/backwards in history.
- "over-scroll" (you know, when you can sort sort scroll past the top and bottom of the page).
I know it sounds a bit vain, but I simply can't make a switch unless the look and feel is native to OS X.
[+] [-] SloopJon|11 years ago|reply
Activity Monitor reports that Firefox 32.0.3 is using 21 GB on my Mac. That makes for sluggish performance, even with 32 GB of RAM. Looking forward to trying Firefox 33.
[+] [-] mccr8|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] nnethercote|11 years ago|reply
It was implemented by the wonderful Jan de Mooij who just last week landed another nice JS memory improvement that should be released in Firefox 35: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1073700#c7
[+] [-] lucb1e|11 years ago|reply
Wow, that is just insane. Checking right now, it uses ~950MB for me on GNU/Linux. That's with 14 tabs (among which 2 that use flash player) and 20 active add-ons (gestures, self-destructing cookies, header modifier, adblock plus, etc.).
[+] [-] masklinn|11 years ago|reply
CPython did something similar (though more expansive, it switches between 4 different internal encodings depending on string content: ASCII, latin1, UCS2 and UCS4) in 3.3 with the PEP 393 "Flexible String Representation". I wonder if this Moz change was independently reinvented or inspired by the FSR.
[+] [-] Yoric|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] nd7|11 years ago|reply
half-screen, non-rounded thumbnails? That new UI makes me sad...
[+] [-] justcommenting|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] chdir|11 years ago|reply
http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/15/mozilla-ceo-we-refuse-to-b...
[+] [-] munimkazia|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] Animats|11 years ago|reply
http://www.osnews.com/story/24954/US_Patent_Expiration_for_M...
http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/MPEG_patent_lists#MPEG-1_Au...
Most of the remaining patents expire in 2015. There are a few for 2017, but they're for features nobody really needs in a computer decoder.
[+] [-] thristian|11 years ago|reply
https://github.com/cisco/openh264
[+] [-] AshleysBrain|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] megablast|11 years ago|reply
I ended up having to download it from the website, which was not an obvious experience.
[+] [-] hosay123|11 years ago|reply
Yay, another decade before we get YouTube on OS X
[+] [-] acdha|11 years ago|reply
In any case, the bug to watch for OS X is actually different: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1062654 That uses Apple's system implementation so it has great performance and it currently appears to be slated for Firefox 35; use the Nightly builds if you want it now and like to live dangerously.
[+] [-] ck2|11 years ago|reply
Settings show it only supports up to level "31" whatever that is.
[+] [-] jodybdesigns|11 years ago|reply
My usage is not as high as im reading. But a lot of my usage comes from Adblock. I have 5 browser windows open, with about 5-10 tabs each, im currently @ 760mb on Win 10.
A nice bug I get is from Firebug. When I am debugging a site, and I try to hover over my Taskbar icons to grab a new window, it flashes for about 2 seconds on whatever im hovering, and I have to try again, the second try usually leaves my taskbar windows open. If I close Firebug, this problem stops.
I also notice when I run flash (I stream mixtapes from datpiff.com), my usage goes sky high. I have been trying some debug options in about:config, and I think I have knocked the usage down by modifying a few lines.
Also another bug I experience on Win10 with Firefox is my top bar will completely disappear, I have to alt+F4 to close out Firefox and re-open. Maybe Firefox 33 will fix some of these issues.
[+] [-] jodybdesigns|11 years ago|reply