I worked on Upcoming briefly as a contractor in 2006, and it was a strange thing to witness. At the time Yahoo was acquiring a bunch of small sites but seemed to have no idea what to do with them. They just hung there suspended, like raisins in a jello mold, waiting for something to come along and digest them.
Eventually Yahoo solved the dillema by wrapping these projects in successive layers of management, like a bureaucratic oyster reacting to some irritant it doesn't understand but can't get rid of. Vast amounts of time would be spent on things like requiring integrated login, rather then stepping back and figuring out how to really fit Upcoming or Flickr or Delicious into a vision of what Yahoo was for.
I'm really happy Andy got the domain back. I'm still holding out for Joshua to reclaim Delicious!
I wonder if we'll see more 'resurrections' of good ideas that were acquired and killed simply due to bad business rather than bad ideas. Is there a list of companies/ideas somewhere that went down the acquisition path only to be killed ?
This article is a candid perspective on making things, making money, integrity and other nuanced topics. Crying 'You're rich, do it out of pocket.' is the opposite.
People donate to projects like this on kickstarter because they want a project to go ahead exist and they want to be a part of that. The writer is getting (reasonably modest) resources with which to make it happen, perhaps even some compensation. He gets the support of 1000 true fans who put $40 where their mouth is. That knits together some valuable forms of validation, encouragement, responsibility and other small nuanced things.
Why would you inject your negativity into this mix?
The author is right that no one really scratched that itch, at least up until recently. I spent a few years building something in my spare time to try to scratch the itch (and did a fair amount of research on the space) after Upcoming fell into disrepair but couldn't get enough momentum on it.
That said, Sosh seems to now be finally scratching that itch, just as Upcoming is trying to make a comeback.
Wow what a story!i was an avid upcoming user in London back in 2007 and inspired my own startup back then.. Insane to learn now it was a side project! The first refusal idea should be part of a startup code or guidelines that all adhere to..
[+] [-] idlewords|11 years ago|reply
Eventually Yahoo solved the dillema by wrapping these projects in successive layers of management, like a bureaucratic oyster reacting to some irritant it doesn't understand but can't get rid of. Vast amounts of time would be spent on things like requiring integrated login, rather then stepping back and figuring out how to really fit Upcoming or Flickr or Delicious into a vision of what Yahoo was for.
I'm really happy Andy got the domain back. I'm still holding out for Joshua to reclaim Delicious!
[+] [-] michaelgrafl|11 years ago|reply
They just hung there suspended, like raisins in a jello mold, waiting for something to come along and digest them.
I pause and take a look at who wrote this.
And almost always it was written by that Pinboard guy.
[+] [-] joshu|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] pjc50|11 years ago|reply
I like this piece of self-awareness.
[+] [-] mathattack|11 years ago|reply
That put a smile on my face. Thank you for sharing!
[+] [-] brandonmenc|11 years ago|reply
Lots of discussion about his foray into copyright infringement.
http://mondoglobo.net/neofiles/shows/neofiles-034.mp3
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[+] [-] arthurcolle|11 years ago|reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...
This page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...) doesn't exist though interestingly enough
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[+] [-] rurounijones|11 years ago|reply
I mean, the original was done as a side-project by the owner who did not have the money that, I assume, said post-acquisition owner now has.
[+] [-] netcan|11 years ago|reply
People donate to projects like this on kickstarter because they want a project to go ahead exist and they want to be a part of that. The writer is getting (reasonably modest) resources with which to make it happen, perhaps even some compensation. He gets the support of 1000 true fans who put $40 where their mouth is. That knits together some valuable forms of validation, encouragement, responsibility and other small nuanced things.
Why would you inject your negativity into this mix?
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That said, Sosh seems to now be finally scratching that itch, just as Upcoming is trying to make a comeback.
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It seems quite similar to French http://www.sortiraparis.com/ that exists for more than 10 years I think.
[+] [-] netcan|11 years ago|reply
I'd never heard of upcoming, but I will definitely check it out in the future.
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