Mozilla: We are sorry we said stuff you disagreed with. We know we published two opposing articles, and by being vague about this we hope you will assume that we're apologising about the one you personally disagree with. That was a terrible, terrible article. Unlike the other fantastic article. Which you agreed with. And we agreed with. Obviously.
Now please - for the love of all that is good - Can you please stop emailing us? Can you please stop tweeting us? Can you please leave us out of your petty ridiculous argument. Even though we agree with that argument. The right one. The one we agree on.
Why he didn't link directly to it in the apologies is a bit weird.
Also I do not completely understand what the apology is about, for this article? For other formal responses to it? (Where are they btw?) For the contents of the comment sections on these articles?
Well, also, @firefox tweeting the story you linked to with the #gamergate hashtag brought a whole world of bullshit down on Audrey, so there's that.
This is why the 'apology' talks about 'starting a conversation,' because it was two articles _and_ a number of other tweets by @firefox, positioning #gamergate as a 'conversation' and 'controversy' between two equal sides, rather than a weirdly obsessive harassment campaign with a cover story.
I sincerely can't understand what are they apologizing for.
After reading both articles I have the feeling they were expecting an self serving circle jerk and when instead they got called out, sometimes with pretty good fair points they panicked.
Now they apologize for something to someone.
I really wonder the true power that some people might have behind the scenes, but i'm sure this whole thing stinks.
On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.
This story is related to an ongoing event related to genre bias on technology industry. As so, most people think it is on topic here (based on the number of upvotes needed to land on first page).
I agree. Almost every time I refresh the page, I see something political, and that kind of stuff is really better suited to Twitter/YouTube/Slashdot/Reddit.
[+] [-] HarrietJones|11 years ago|reply
Now please - for the love of all that is good - Can you please stop emailing us? Can you please stop tweeting us? Can you please leave us out of your petty ridiculous argument. Even though we agree with that argument. The right one. The one we agree on.
[+] [-] bhouston|11 years ago|reply
https://openstandard.mozilla.org/yes-gamergate-is-a-ed-tech-...
Why he didn't link directly to it in the apologies is a bit weird.
Also I do not completely understand what the apology is about, for this article? For other formal responses to it? (Where are they btw?) For the contents of the comment sections on these articles?
[+] [-] steveklabnik|11 years ago|reply
Well, also, @firefox tweeting the story you linked to with the #gamergate hashtag brought a whole world of bullshit down on Audrey, so there's that.
This is why the 'apology' talks about 'starting a conversation,' because it was two articles _and_ a number of other tweets by @firefox, positioning #gamergate as a 'conversation' and 'controversy' between two equal sides, rather than a weirdly obsessive harassment campaign with a cover story.
[+] [-] aikah|11 years ago|reply
That's why apologies are justified,I'm glad Mozilla is setting the record straight.
I dont want to hear about that gamergate stuff.If people want to fight,let them go on twitter,youtube or on msnbc to make a fool out of themself.
[+] [-] unknown|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] huehue|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] PedroBatista|11 years ago|reply
After reading both articles I have the feeling they were expecting an self serving circle jerk and when instead they got called out, sometimes with pretty good fair points they panicked.
Now they apologize for something to someone.
I really wonder the true power that some people might have behind the scenes, but i'm sure this whole thing stinks.
[+] [-] bobcostas55|11 years ago|reply
Ah, that explains why they chased out Brendan Eich.
[+] [-] eli|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] Zancarius|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] mcguire|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] qwerta|11 years ago|reply
I go here for hardware/software related news and this is just OT.
[+] [-] motoboi|11 years ago|reply
Quoting guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html):
On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.
This story is related to an ongoing event related to genre bias on technology industry. As so, most people think it is on topic here (based on the number of upvotes needed to land on first page).
[+] [-] asaddhamani|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] DanBC|11 years ago|reply
Obviously it's a tricky problem if you want nuanced filtering.