For a brief moment I wondered if this is what I want to see on HN/Techcrunch. But we're a community, and lots of us live in SF - if it were a friend of mine, I'd be super happy to see this trending. Seems like the least we can do is have each others backs.
This reminded me of another missing person posted here. Does anyone know what happened to Luke Arduini? I have no connection, but for some reason this stuck with me.
/r/sanfrancisco mod here. It's a tough call, and one that Reddit Admins (not mods) have mostly decided for us. The worry is this: an abusive ex could post a "missing persons" alert for someone trying to hide, and get their location.
So, we have a rule that a news organization (which has more of an ability to vet a story, as well as a "the cat's already out of the bag" effect) has to cover it before it can be posted – and you'll notice the story is now on r/sanfrancisco since one did.
Can someone take a missing person report from Police department and take it to Cell phone company and get any cell location traces for those period of time? Assuming the cell is on.
Can anyone do it or just someone from police department?
If only it were that easy... my brother went missing in February 2009 and as of today it's still an "ongoing" investigation. I was basically blocked at every turn...
In order for to get a cellphone log or trace, the detectives on the case needs to file for a subpoena. A judge will then need to sign off on it which takes 24-48 hours. Following that, they need to submit it to the cellphone company which claims it might take a billing cycle before the data is provided since it's on the "cell towers" and it's not transmitted yet. Even then, the information is useless. It's nothing more than what you receive on your monthly billing statement.
Police has no authority to just do it since it's up to the cellphone provider.
This depends on where you are located, but for the most part the answer is no - unless you are a member of a law enforcement agency you will not be able to get this data from the cell phone company. Depending on the country, cell phone provider and law enforcement agency, they will probably need a warrant or court order as well.
On the flip side, if you're an adult and trying to "disappear" for.. whatever reason you've chosen (it's your prerogative), social media has made that difficult.
If the little bit of time this stays up on front page, would help find him, then by all means let it be. You have my support for this. I hope, wherever he is, he is in good health.
It doesn't shock me at all -- It's one of the reason's I got the hell out of SF, and I'm not going back. It's an effect of the monster we've created, the collateral damage of our industry that the lottery winners, the VCs, the media, and the politicians all sweep under the rug. It's an effect of the "don't show weakness" cultural norm that we've created for men, and it's about time we get over ourselves and tear it down.
Sounds crazy, but this is an irrational fear that I have for myself or loves ones; I'll go out one day but won't make it at my destination without anyone knowing where I am.
I know share my current GPS location with my family, so that they always know where we all are, and the last place we were at before going missing.
[+] [-] chadnickbok|11 years ago|reply
For a brief moment I wondered if this is what I want to see on HN/Techcrunch. But we're a community, and lots of us live in SF - if it were a friend of mine, I'd be super happy to see this trending. Seems like the least we can do is have each others backs.
[+] [-] 8ig8|11 years ago|reply
Here's some background:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7048249
http://blog.izs.me/post/72990767417/a-member-of-our-communit...
[+] [-] vitalus|11 years ago|reply
https://the-pastry-box-project.net/charlie-robbins/2014-sept...
[+] [-] recondite|11 years ago|reply
http://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco
as well.
[+] [-] gkoberger|11 years ago|reply
So, we have a rule that a news organization (which has more of an ability to vet a story, as well as a "the cat's already out of the bag" effect) has to cover it before it can be posted – and you'll notice the story is now on r/sanfrancisco since one did.
[+] [-] kybernetyk|11 years ago|reply
http://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/2lhwzi/an_impo...
[+] [-] tonyplee|11 years ago|reply
Can someone take a missing person report from Police department and take it to Cell phone company and get any cell location traces for those period of time? Assuming the cell is on.
Can anyone do it or just someone from police department?
[+] [-] throwaway022009|11 years ago|reply
In order for to get a cellphone log or trace, the detectives on the case needs to file for a subpoena. A judge will then need to sign off on it which takes 24-48 hours. Following that, they need to submit it to the cellphone company which claims it might take a billing cycle before the data is provided since it's on the "cell towers" and it's not transmitted yet. Even then, the information is useless. It's nothing more than what you receive on your monthly billing statement.
Police has no authority to just do it since it's up to the cellphone provider.
[+] [-] centizen|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] reledi|11 years ago|reply
1: https://preyproject.com
[+] [-] gear54rus|11 years ago|reply
Yet we still fail to find something (or someone) that really matters.
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[+] [-] jonalmeida|11 years ago|reply
I know share my current GPS location with my family, so that they always know where we all are, and the last place we were at before going missing.
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[+] [-] salina|11 years ago|reply
Facebook Event (where friends and family are organizing efforts) - https://www.facebook.com/events/1498483497100432/?ref_notif_...
[+] [-] hindsightbias|11 years ago|reply
https://www.facebook.com/MissingCalifornia5
Anyone have any contacts at the FBI?
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