In fact [Andromeda's] full diameter on the night sky is six times that of the full Moon.
I was surprised to read this. I remember gazing at Andromeda and the full moon many years ago as an amateur astronomer, but didn't have a sense of apparent size of the two.
Anyway, I dug into NASA's archives [0] which included an image showing perspective. Thought it was pretty neat, so here you go:
I was lucky enough to see Andromeda with the naked eye while doing a transatlantic yacht race. Believe it or not it took me a couple of days to find Pegasus but then it was obvious each night as I gazed up at the sky.
We're on a collision course with Andromeda, right? Those trillion stars crashing in are going to make for a wonderful fireworks display :)
There is a neat size comparison of the Andromeda galaxy (178 x 63 arc minutes) and the moon (30 x 30 arc minutes) on APOD: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap061228.html
According to wikipedia "Although it appears more than six times as wide as the full Moon when photographed through a larger telescope, only the brighter central region is visible to the naked eye or when viewed using binoculars or a small telescope." [1]
Another stunning thing about Andromeda to observe is its satellite galaxies. The larger satellite galaxies are easily observable in a wide-field eye-piece even by beginners. The smaller ones (globular clusters) are a little harder.
Observing the large central galaxy alongwith its satellite galaxies gives me a better sense of scale and fills me with awe.
" To capture the large portion of the galaxy seen here — over 40 000 light-years across — Hubble took 411 images which have been assembled into a mosaic image."
"The image featured here has 69 536 x 22 230 pixels and is a cropped version of the full uncropped image which has 3.9 billion pixels and covers a length of almost 60 000 light years."
I was blown away in particular by sheer luminescence difference between galactic core and edge of the galaxy. Imagine the brightness of night sky in galactic core. That reminded me of the paper that estimated number of GRB's that would hit a planet based on where it was located - galactic core is not a hospitable place.
After being stunned by the close-up of the stars I'm tempted to download the 4.3GB original [1]. The scale was unexpected having mostly seen only resized photos before.
In case you don´t know, Andromeda is approaching the Milky Way at about 110 km per second and will collide with our galaxy. See NASA collision animation and also the amazing illustration of how big we'll see Andromeda Galaxy (in 3.75 billion years): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda%E2%80%93Milky_Way_col...
For those unfamiliar with astrophotography, there are a few neat things to note about this image. Most of the larger points of light that have what looks like a cross going through them are actually stars in our own galaxy between the Earth and Andromeda.
The crosses, or spokes, through each of the stars is caused by the struts holding Hubble's secondary mirror in place above the primary mirror. Every poinpoint of light in this picture actually has these spokes, but they are only really visible on the biggest, brightest spots.
This is also visible in Hubble's Deep Field photos as there are numerous local stars in the foreground.
The reddish, fuzzy, oblong objects that are a bit bigger are other galaxies far past Andromeda. Most appear red because of a side effect on light traversing such a long distance before reaching us called redshift.
I wouldn't believe you if I didn't see this same thing in my backyard. When I point my telescope (a good ole dob 10' light bucket) into the sky on a dark night when the milky way is near zenith, it looks like someone has frozen a single frame of white noise on an old crt tv set but with hints of color.
What's even more amazing is that we only see the stars hot enough to be visible. There is a HUGE amount of stars not detectible woven into that galactic fabric hiding from us.
Are the "background noise" of the images also stars? It's the first time I realize the darker parts of the universe, while zoomed in, looks disturbingly noisy and bright.
Yeah, when you're looking at the core of Andromeda, you're seeing countless stars fairly close together. That galaxy is larger than ours and contains an estimated one trillion stars.
The best example of "dark" parts of the sky not being really dark is the Hubble Ultra-Deep Field. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Ultra-Deep_Field It's pretty hard to find truly dark areas of the sky when you're looking far enough. The mind-blowing part is that almost all of those bright spots are galaxies, not stars.
I got similar large image printed and hang in my living room. It is milky-way panorama, poster has 2x5 meters, 100Kx300K pixes, pretty nice. One can see every tiny nebula.
"Oh, cool! I can split this into images and print out a full color wall mural of Andromeda!"
looks at prices of poster printing
Professional printed glossy full bleed posters: $30ea (x25=$750). Ouch. Wall mural printing services don't seem to list custom pricing, but I assume it's less. A cheaper alternative is KISS Printing, which at $0.15 per 12.5"x18.5" printable area would be around 10x10, so about $15.... but you also choose how much profit they make, so figure at least $30 profit, since half goes to a charity... $45 is very affordable, though not as nice prints
I've looked at the zommable picture. When I zoomed to the maximum, I saw a lot of noise in the picture (and a arather regular one). Does it mean that although the resolution is pretty impressive, the noise make it less "useful" ? Just asking, I've 0 knowledge in this area.
Second question, just out of curiosity, would it be possible to look at closer objects like Mars or the moon ? We'd have a pretty good image too ?
About the Mars question, consider the fact that the Andromeda galaxy, although faint in the sky, takes up 5 times more room in our night sky than the moon does. It's really huge.
Mars in comparison is minuscule in our night sky. It's just a tiny blob of light.
It was explained quite well recently - Hubble can't look at the Moon(or the Earth for that matter) because it's moving way too fast relative to either of these two bodies to take a non-blurry picture.
No knowledge either, but it looks to me like the "noise" is actually made of stars.
Maybe you didn't zoom far enough? At sub-maximal zoom, there is aliasing resulting from a lack of low pass filtering before the resolution reduction. That looks a bit like sensor noise.
This picture is awesome. Looking at it, I get a deep feeling of loneliness and complete loss in this gigantic space.
As someone already said, "We can't be alone in here..."
Also, this is a nice reminder of the quality of engineering that went into Hubble. This satellite is truly an incredible piece of work for being relevant and useful so much time after its supposed "expiration date"! :)
That is an awesome picture. The JWST should have "Galaxies in the Mirror are Closer than they Appear" somewhere on its primary mirror :-).
It is fortunate that the jets coming off the galactic black hole in the middle of Andromeda aren't pointed our way, that would have made short work of life on Earth.
As you zoom in on that area more and more, the yellow arc seems to go away, so I'm guessing it's some kind of image compression artifact and it's just dust lanes like elsewhere in the galaxy.
[+] [-] npongratz|11 years ago|reply
I was surprised to read this. I remember gazing at Andromeda and the full moon many years ago as an amateur astronomer, but didn't have a sense of apparent size of the two.
Anyway, I dug into NASA's archives [0] which included an image showing perspective. Thought it was pretty neat, so here you go:
http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/images/hs-2015-02-e-compa...
[0] http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2015/02/fa...
[+] [-] aidos|11 years ago|reply
I was lucky enough to see Andromeda with the naked eye while doing a transatlantic yacht race. Believe it or not it took me a couple of days to find Pegasus but then it was obvious each night as I gazed up at the sky.
We're on a collision course with Andromeda, right? Those trillion stars crashing in are going to make for a wonderful fireworks display :)
[+] [-] rndn|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] andyjohnson0|11 years ago|reply
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_Galaxy
[+] [-] hrjet|11 years ago|reply
Observing the large central galaxy alongwith its satellite galaxies gives me a better sense of scale and fills me with awe.
[+] [-] TrainedMonkey|11 years ago|reply
"The image featured here has 69 536 x 22 230 pixels and is a cropped version of the full uncropped image which has 3.9 billion pixels and covers a length of almost 60 000 light years."
Here is a link from the article that would help appreciate how detailed full resolutions is: http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic1502a/zoomable/
I was blown away in particular by sheer luminescence difference between galactic core and edge of the galaxy. Imagine the brightness of night sky in galactic core. That reminded me of the paper that estimated number of GRB's that would hit a planet based on where it was located - galactic core is not a hospitable place.
[+] [-] Springtime|11 years ago|reply
[1] http://www.spacetelescope.org/static/archives/images/origina...
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[+] [-] Rooster61|11 years ago|reply
The crosses, or spokes, through each of the stars is caused by the struts holding Hubble's secondary mirror in place above the primary mirror. Every poinpoint of light in this picture actually has these spokes, but they are only really visible on the biggest, brightest spots.
This is also visible in Hubble's Deep Field photos as there are numerous local stars in the foreground.
The reddish, fuzzy, oblong objects that are a bit bigger are other galaxies far past Andromeda. Most appear red because of a side effect on light traversing such a long distance before reaching us called redshift.
[+] [-] CamperBob2|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] Rooster61|11 years ago|reply
What's even more amazing is that we only see the stars hot enough to be visible. There is a HUGE amount of stars not detectible woven into that galactic fabric hiding from us.
We are small.
[+] [-] kylek|11 years ago|reply
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Webb_Space_Telescope
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[+] [-] TrainedMonkey|11 years ago|reply
I would even say that we are only seeing brightest stars and clusters of stars.
[+] [-] ChrisGranger|11 years ago|reply
The best example of "dark" parts of the sky not being really dark is the Hubble Ultra-Deep Field. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Ultra-Deep_Field It's pretty hard to find truly dark areas of the sky when you're looking far enough. The mind-blowing part is that almost all of those bright spots are galaxies, not stars.
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[+] [-] dshankar|11 years ago|reply
Previously, this was 310 million pixels (http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/M31NMmosaic.html)
The Hubble photo is 3.9 billion pixels.
[+] [-] peterwwillis|11 years ago|reply
looks at prices of poster printing
Professional printed glossy full bleed posters: $30ea (x25=$750). Ouch. Wall mural printing services don't seem to list custom pricing, but I assume it's less. A cheaper alternative is KISS Printing, which at $0.15 per 12.5"x18.5" printable area would be around 10x10, so about $15.... but you also choose how much profit they make, so figure at least $30 profit, since half goes to a charity... $45 is very affordable, though not as nice prints
[+] [-] frownie|11 years ago|reply
Second question, just out of curiosity, would it be possible to look at closer objects like Mars or the moon ? We'd have a pretty good image too ?
[+] [-] Betelgeuse90|11 years ago|reply
Mars in comparison is minuscule in our night sky. It's just a tiny blob of light.
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[+] [-] pygy_|11 years ago|reply
Maybe you didn't zoom far enough? At sub-maximal zoom, there is aliasing resulting from a lack of low pass filtering before the resolution reduction. That looks a bit like sensor noise.
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[+] [-] Ragnarork|11 years ago|reply
As someone already said, "We can't be alone in here..."
Also, this is a nice reminder of the quality of engineering that went into Hubble. This satellite is truly an incredible piece of work for being relevant and useful so much time after its supposed "expiration date"! :)
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It is fortunate that the jets coming off the galactic black hole in the middle of Andromeda aren't pointed our way, that would have made short work of life on Earth.
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