> I would like to say a great big thanks to all of you for finding this out, for following this issue, for spreading the word, and for making me aware of it. It is a great honor my project has won such a prestigious prise regardless of the circumstances.
> I have written this software for the betterment of everyone and it gives me great joy that people all over the world are finding out about it and finding it useful. I am following this discussion with great interest and once again thank you all!
Everyone else is going nuts with memes and witch hunts, while the developer sits back and is just happy that his software is being used. Unbelievably admirable.
This award was given out by the Chinese government...and many Chinese researchers don't think this project deserves the prize and consider it is a shame.
A statement from China Computer Fed (CCF), released a few days after the award was announced, has asked the government to withdraw from the award reviewing process...The original statement has already been censored from CCF's site; and this is what I found in google's cache, which is in Chinese but you could have it translated with google translate...
I personally feel the innovation in this state award winning project is nothing fancy...but note in its architecture it requires no hard drive installed on end user's computing devices as one of its highlighted features (although most of the computing are still done at those end points). Anything from kernel image to application data are all stored in and provided by remote data center(s) (which could be, of course, state controlled), and they call it cloud storage...So I feel the act of giving award to this particular project by the Chinese government might be a sign that Chinese government is thinking about bringing up censorship, personal behavior and identity tracking to another level -- if so, then FUCK the Chinese government
And a Chinese startup cracked NewRelic to raise over $10m http://www.v2ex.com/t/125736 It is in Chinese. Code diff is in the comments. It seems they cracks New Relic's Node.js, Python and Java agents, and raised RMB 70m ($10m+) from Matrix and Chengwei (sounds like a Chinese fund): http://source.chinaventure.com.cn/show_2_0_19158.html.
According to the comments from their developer, Python code is written to follow NewsRelic and Java, Ruby, PHP and others are totally written on their own. Apparently they know NewsRelic developers, but they don't have their source code.
Comments look like a mob lynch. I don't know what commenters expect the author would do, or why he would care.
We've seen stories of chinese corporations blatantly stealing western company technologies and the chinese government doing nothing about it. And here some dude won a national competition on top of OSS and they expect somebody would care?
"We've seen stories of chinese corporations blatantly stealing western company technologies and the chinese government doing nothing about it."
Hahaha! The Chinese Government is not "doing nothing about it". The Government is the main supporter of this.
To get their country to the technology level of Western society is their main objective, like it should be natural, politicians looking for the interest of the people they represent. What do you expect? Chinese following the interest of foreigners?
We were working on China and they offered us to pay us double for the detailed plans of the (Western) machine we were building. Of course we said no, so they offered us 5 times. We again said no and they offered us 10 times. Obviously if you accept the offer it will be the last time you sell a machine to them.
If you give them the plans, like you could do with less valuable things, now they will offer you money for a detailed explanation of the plans, as Chinese education is very lacking today.
>>We've seen stories of chinese corporations blatantly stealing western company technologies and the chinese government doing nothing about it. And here some dude won a national competition on top of OSS and they expect somebody would care?
This time it is slightly different, the award is at state level, and to win that, you'll need a nomination. Think of a smaller scale, Chinese version of Turing award, and the Nominees are mostly professional researchers, say, PIs, Professors at college or research institute. In this case, it's more like plagiarism than stealing techs.
The award itself is very sublime, and, despite of this one, researchers really have to make some big advancement at state(even international) level to get the nomination.
In China's media, if some news is defined as "good news", then only comments like "好！支持！有希望了！" are displayed while doubting or opposing views are all deleted.
I don't know if it is uniquely Chinese, but lots of Chinese comment threads are like this - people like to register simple approval or disapproval (or comment-to-receive-updates). It's not 'spam' but maybe kind of bewildering to an HN audience where every comment is expected to be substantive.
And last month they they just integrated the techniques into their state-operated firewall, and then, bingo! it works! as a result many VPN services across the country are down (as reported in a NYT article linked below)
Perhaps a white list approach is being used now which would only allow those service providers that are willing to cooperate with the Chinese government to pass the filter...
[+] [-] zamalek|11 years ago|reply
> I would like to say a great big thanks to all of you for finding this out, for following this issue, for spreading the word, and for making me aware of it. It is a great honor my project has won such a prestigious prise regardless of the circumstances.
> I have written this software for the betterment of everyone and it gives me great joy that people all over the world are finding out about it and finding it useful. I am following this discussion with great interest and once again thank you all!
Everyone else is going nuts with memes and witch hunts, while the developer sits back and is just happy that his software is being used. Unbelievably admirable.
[+] [-] 2510c39011c5|11 years ago|reply
A statement from China Computer Fed (CCF), released a few days after the award was announced, has asked the government to withdraw from the award reviewing process...The original statement has already been censored from CCF's site; and this is what I found in google's cache, which is in Chinese but you could have it translated with google translate...
http://goo.gl/Jrks9j
I personally feel the innovation in this state award winning project is nothing fancy...but note in its architecture it requires no hard drive installed on end user's computing devices as one of its highlighted features (although most of the computing are still done at those end points). Anything from kernel image to application data are all stored in and provided by remote data center(s) (which could be, of course, state controlled), and they call it cloud storage...So I feel the act of giving award to this particular project by the Chinese government might be a sign that Chinese government is thinking about bringing up censorship, personal behavior and identity tracking to another level -- if so, then FUCK the Chinese government
[+] [-] be5invis|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] tb93|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] monkeyninja|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] secwang|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] AYBABTME|11 years ago|reply
We've seen stories of chinese corporations blatantly stealing western company technologies and the chinese government doing nothing about it. And here some dude won a national competition on top of OSS and they expect somebody would care?
[+] [-] Htsthbjig|11 years ago|reply
Hahaha! The Chinese Government is not "doing nothing about it". The Government is the main supporter of this.
To get their country to the technology level of Western society is their main objective, like it should be natural, politicians looking for the interest of the people they represent. What do you expect? Chinese following the interest of foreigners?
We were working on China and they offered us to pay us double for the detailed plans of the (Western) machine we were building. Of course we said no, so they offered us 5 times. We again said no and they offered us 10 times. Obviously if you accept the offer it will be the last time you sell a machine to them.
If you give them the plans, like you could do with less valuable things, now they will offer you money for a detailed explanation of the plans, as Chinese education is very lacking today.
[+] [-] methou|11 years ago|reply
This time it is slightly different, the award is at state level, and to win that, you'll need a nomination. Think of a smaller scale, Chinese version of Turing award, and the Nominees are mostly professional researchers, say, PIs, Professors at college or research institute. In this case, it's more like plagiarism than stealing techs.
The award itself is very sublime, and, despite of this one, researchers really have to make some big advancement at state(even international) level to get the nomination.
There's an english explanation by Hong Kong Government on this award: http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/200610/18/P200610180171.h...
[+] [-] zobzu|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] chewxy|11 years ago|reply
And there are so many "Follow this post" comments. What is the context?
[+] [-] luikore|11 years ago|reply
In China's media, if some news is defined as "good news", then only comments like "好！支持！有希望了！" are displayed while doubting or opposing views are all deleted.
[+] [-] thejosh|11 years ago|reply
Since there is no upvote/downvote to filter out the rubbish, people rush to post their may-may's as fast as possible before the thread gets locked.
It happens constantly, it's not just the chinese (though maybe they don't understand how to subscribe to a thread?)
[+] [-] westiseast|11 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] hurin|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] 2510c39011c5|11 years ago|reply
http://goo.gl/wmSrkw
And last month they they just integrated the techniques into their state-operated firewall, and then, bingo! it works! as a result many VPN services across the country are down (as reported in a NYT article linked below)
http://goo.gl/HyvXgF
Perhaps a white list approach is being used now which would only allow those service providers that are willing to cooperate with the Chinese government to pass the filter...
[+] [-] haosdent|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] krfantasy|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] kostyk|11 years ago|reply
[+] [-] mieses|11 years ago|reply
this is the US after all.