[dscrd]

No, they also suffer from the pattern misuse pattern and are also slow as hell.

[bojanz]

It would benefit the whole community if you documented your complaints (and suggestions for improvements) in a blog post we can all read & comment on.

[porker]

Though the Symfony2 community hasn't been open to criticism and suggestions for improvement.

And eventually, when they've taken some of the original criticisms on-board (at v2.6) [0], they themselves get shot down by parts of the community for spoiling the architecture.

0: http://symfony.com/doc/current/best_practices/index.html