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Things I Won’t Work With: Peroxide Peroxides (2014)

82 points| robin_reala | 11 years ago |pipeline.corante.com | reply

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[+] D-Coder|11 years ago|reply
I am not a chemist, but I love this guy's writing:

"But I have to admit, I'd never thought much about the next analog of hydrogen peroxide. Instead of having two oxygens in there, why not three: HOOOH? Indeed, why not? This is a general principle that can be extended to many other similar situations. Instead of being locked in a self-storage unit with two rabid wolverines, why not three?"

[+] Crito|11 years ago|reply
If you can find a copy, you might like the book Ignition! by John Clark (some libraries have it, and there is a scanned PDF floating around online). It is about the early development of rocket propellants (which as you might imagine covers a lot of really nasty chemicals), and is filled with these sort of humorous analogies and deliberate understatements. Very funny (and informative) book.
[+] ddingus|11 years ago|reply
Me too. Some people have a flair for making the technical accessible. Always a treat, and I always learn something.
[+] lutorm|11 years ago|reply
For a fun tour of nasty chemicals, I can recommend "Ignition! An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants" by John D. Clark. You will learn about all the nice propellants that were tried back in the 50s and 60s, like FCl_3 and liquid lithium...

Edit: Nm, saw this was already mentioned.

[+] Malic|11 years ago|reply
Sounds about as much fun as FOOF: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2010/02/23/things_i_won...

Joke Q: Where do you look to find chemists that have discovered FOOF on their own? A: A cemetery.

[+] pdkl95|11 years ago|reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm2AdknTcMI

Prof. Poliakoff - now Dr. Martyn Poliakoff CBE - has made it, and in this video he briefly shows the specialized apparatus you use in the production of FOOF.

(I highly recommend his entire series, "Periodic Table of Videos". they are really fun)

[+] tsaoutourpants|11 years ago|reply
The real question is whether we can make FOOOF :)
[+] jszymborski|11 years ago|reply
Totally can sympathize with the title. Open a bottle of an ether with a loose cap that has had diethyl ether peroxides form on it's rim... you'll have a new outlook on the situation.

(Diethyl ether peroxide is a contact explosive)

[+] pdkl95|11 years ago|reply
My intro inorganic-chem class had the best safety video, described as one "Dr Anxiety". Among other thing like a glass tube being into a stopper that ended with blood spraying everywhere, it had someone in a lab coat pick up a 1L reagent bottle off a shelf, eye it for a while, and say, "Hmm.. I haven't used this in a while, but I'm sure it's still good.". As soon as they turned the cap, it exploded into a giant fireball, complete with the lab guy running around on fire. Rewinding and pausing the video revealed that it was diethyl ether.

I kind of wish I could find a copy of that safety video....

[+] darylteo|11 years ago|reply
I understood some of those words (failed highschool chem)
[+] Mz|11 years ago|reply
Unfortunately, I cannot open this. I keep getting some fatal error.
[+] gus_massa|11 years ago|reply
The Corante bloging site that host the Pipeline blog has a problem with IE. Try to open it with Chrome or Firefox
[+] roadnottaken|11 years ago|reply

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[+] DanBC|11 years ago|reply
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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I've seen the blog before; it's been mentioned on HN a few times. But so what? It's better than a lot of stuff on /newest

[+] cbd1984|11 years ago|reply
News as in Usenet not as in CNN.