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Gusfoo_2 | 11 years ago

> Could it be the two parties are much the same when it comes to screwing the American people?

Perhaps (shock!) the TPP is actually a good idea and will be beneficial to the people of the USA

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logn|11 years ago

Which is why they've been so proud to share the details with the people of the USA, right? Foreign companies will be able to sue the USA if any of TPP provisions are violated (allegedly... it's a secret agreement), so it would be nice to actually debate it first. Legislators have been excluded from TPP negotiations as well.

Additionally, fast tracking bypasses Constitutional procedures to ratify treaties.

The supporters of TPP are the legislators who serve big business, generally. Those opposed are the populists. If by good for the American people, you mean American corporations and American investors, then you're right that it's good for them.

mindslight|11 years ago

You're almost right. Just s/people/entrenched companies/. The people don't get a say.

Democrat vs Republican is basically a contest between two business factions, the outcome of which is very important to their respective bottom lines, but ultimately meaningless with regards to individual liberty and sane governing. This issue increases corporate power as well as government power (further cementing the concept of Imaginary Property means there's more to rule), so there's no reason for disagreement.