I think there are two reasons not to post the salary range right away.
1. There is always flexibility in the budget for the right people.
I'm hiring engineers to my team right now and I have a clear number I got from my CEO. I am confident that budget will fit the ideal candidate that I'm trying to hire. But on the other hand, if someone more senior, or junior blows my mind, I'm willing to push for the extra numbers for the more senior, or the extra rack for the junior to get on my team.
2. Salary is not everything.
I do believe salary is important, but not everything. There are a good number of people who are willing to take a job with less salary if they feel they can grow there more, the culture fits them better and the potential of company is bigger there.
I do understand though it is frustrating doing multiple interviews without knowing if the salary range is close to the expectations or not. If a candidate asks me on the initial phone screening about the numbers I am happy to talk about it openly.
> 1. There is always flexibility in the budget for the right people.
Nothing stopping you from tacking on that caveat after offering a range so people can grok you from a distance.
> 2. Salary is not everything.
> I do believe salary is important, but not everything. There are a good number of people who are willing to take a job with less salary if they feel they can grow there more, the culture fits them better and the potential of company is bigger there.
The only people willing to take that cut are
(a) young enough not to be thinking about retirement, and
(b) people naive enough to think you having a good culture lets you off the hook for being a cheapskate.
Disclaimer: used to think salary wasn't everything after $x quality of living, now I'm a bit older, a bit wiser and looking at retirement. I now think I was a huge idiot in my younger years for not taking every advantage possible. - So take my views with a grain of disillusioned salt.
For what it's worth, even though I haven't usually posted a salary range, it's something I try to clear up in the first call. It's true it's a waste of everybody's time otherwise.
We'll see if that posting the range this time will make any difference.
Seems like it would be especially important for jobs where the pay is scaled for a market such as Bloomington, Indiana but remote is okay.
As someone who has lived in San Diego for 14 years it is really easy to forget that lots of people can afford to live comfortably* on $60-80k when they don't live here or in the SF Bay Area, etc.
(* or, for that matter, extremely well, depending upon where they do actually live).
Employers have a tendency to set salaries based on a combination of prior salaries and the market for the area unfortunately, which makes listing a hard number difficult.
milankorsos|11 years ago
1. There is always flexibility in the budget for the right people.
I'm hiring engineers to my team right now and I have a clear number I got from my CEO. I am confident that budget will fit the ideal candidate that I'm trying to hire. But on the other hand, if someone more senior, or junior blows my mind, I'm willing to push for the extra numbers for the more senior, or the extra rack for the junior to get on my team.
2. Salary is not everything.
I do believe salary is important, but not everything. There are a good number of people who are willing to take a job with less salary if they feel they can grow there more, the culture fits them better and the potential of company is bigger there.
I do understand though it is frustrating doing multiple interviews without knowing if the salary range is close to the expectations or not. If a candidate asks me on the initial phone screening about the numbers I am happy to talk about it openly.
lugg|11 years ago
Nothing stopping you from tacking on that caveat after offering a range so people can grok you from a distance.
> 2. Salary is not everything. > I do believe salary is important, but not everything. There are a good number of people who are willing to take a job with less salary if they feel they can grow there more, the culture fits them better and the potential of company is bigger there.
The only people willing to take that cut are
(a) young enough not to be thinking about retirement, and
(b) people naive enough to think you having a good culture lets you off the hook for being a cheapskate.
Disclaimer: used to think salary wasn't everything after $x quality of living, now I'm a bit older, a bit wiser and looking at retirement. I now think I was a huge idiot in my younger years for not taking every advantage possible. - So take my views with a grain of disillusioned salt.
cedsav|11 years ago
We'll see if that posting the range this time will make any difference.
georgemcbay|11 years ago
As someone who has lived in San Diego for 14 years it is really easy to forget that lots of people can afford to live comfortably* on $60-80k when they don't live here or in the SF Bay Area, etc.
(* or, for that matter, extremely well, depending upon where they do actually live).
Bahamut|11 years ago