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The odd life of an underground orchid

60 points| Mz | 11 years ago |earthsky.org | reply

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[+] kijin|11 years ago|reply
If this plant never emerges above the ground (even the flower remains underground unless disturbed by curious botanists), how does it spread its seeds? The seeds would be deposited right on top of the parent.

The article briefly mentions rats eating the seeds, so maybe this plant relies on surface disturbance (animals, heavy rain, etc.) to carry its seeds away?

Or perhaps this plant has no need to spread far and wide, since it depends so heavily on a specific combination of fungus and shrub. It would be futile to spread the seeds outside of this narrow habitable zone.

[+] Malcx|11 years ago|reply
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhizanthella_gardneri

>>Rhizanthella gardneri reproduces vegetatively by which it can produce three daughter plants. They also undergo sexual reproduction, and underground insects such as termites and gnats are known to pollinate the flowers

[+] iamcurious|11 years ago|reply
"Because of its rarity, the locations of the orchids are a secret."

I always have mixed feelings when reading things like that. Specially for such a beautiful flower! Let's hope they find a way to reproduce them in the lab and end with the secrecy.

[+] madaxe_again|11 years ago|reply
Holoparasites are, so far, virtually impossible. See rafflesia, for instance. Haustorium's one hell of an organ - most likely how this orchid extracts nutrients from the mycelium.
[+] ars|11 years ago|reply
The flower is underground, you wouldn't see it anyway.
[+] Alex3917|11 years ago|reply
We have mycoheteroytrophs in the U.S. also, e.g. monotropa uniflora (Indian pipes). They grow in a symbiotic relationship with Russula mushrooms.
[+] whyenot|11 years ago|reply
Some other good examples are snow plant (Sarcodes sanguinea)[1] and phantom orchid (Cephalanthera austiniae)[2]. It's also probably worth mentioning that this is an example of symbiosis in the borad sense. It's not a mutualistic relationship where both the fungus and the orchid benefit. The parasitic plant is using the fungus essential as a straw to suck sugars and nutrients from the roots of other plants. The fungus does not appear to gain in any way from the relationship.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcodes

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalanthera_austiniae

[+] kbenson|11 years ago|reply
"We needed all the help we could get since it often took hours of searching under shrubs on hands and knees to find just one underground orchid!"

It's probably just my unrealistic view of what Australia is like, but that doesn't seem very enjoyable, safe, or even sane.

[+] kleer001|11 years ago|reply
>my unrealistic view of what Australia is like, but that doesn't seem very enjoyable, safe, or even sane.

That's Australia and Australians for ya, mate. And especially young Australian Field Scientists. They're a hardy and fun loving people in a terrible and unforgiving land. Source? Personal experience and historical documents.

[+] tehchromic|11 years ago|reply
I love that it's "there are only 50 of these rare orchids that live their whole lives underground left!", next to photos of one being unearthed and exposed to the air. Also "their existence is a top secret, so all you rabid adventurer collector types, don't go reading this article and come looking for them now" - hilar!
[+] pvaldes|11 years ago|reply
If you like this, you will love the "worm of Dune like" Hydnora africana. A sort of vegetal graboid.
[+] djulius|11 years ago|reply
As a Mefi reader an HNer, I'm always disappointed when I see non-hacking Mefi links posted on HN.

I don't know why, but I suspect people looking for karma, but I would like to be proven the contrary.

[+] Mz|11 years ago|reply
It is called participating in good faith according to the guidelines:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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