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shit_parade | 11 years ago

The fact that you are being down voted is a shame.

The US government tortures people and cares not for the rule of law, this is the entity people seem perfectly happy to support? Where do people draw the line? Is it at genocide?

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Alleluja|11 years ago

The problem with statements like this is their total lack of balance.

What I mean is that because of Guantanamo you will have people like this going on the air at Russia TV claiming the US Government is a "criminal organization". Nevermind that you are hearing this from KGB sponsored Russia TV that will not discuss at any length things like genocide of over 1 milion chechens or murders ordered by Putin.

For me, it's a bit like someone in the 1930s going to a German Nazi sponsored radio saying how bad racism is in the USA while not thinking twice about anti-semitism of the Germany.

And then at the end of the day you really end up with people who think USA is horrible because of things like Guantanamo being totally prone to Russian propaganda. When Russia is so, so much worse.

The things aren't in perspective when you get rid of context.

zo1|11 years ago

>"The things aren't in perspective when you get rid of context."

Context is not necessary. Torture and murder are never okay. So no matter how much "worse" Russia is over America, we will not excuse either. And you can insert any two countries you like in that example above; it'll still apply.

20after4|11 years ago

Just how much worse is Russia?

recibe|11 years ago

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shit_parade|11 years ago

So your argument is yeah we torture and murder people without cause but this other guy over there, he tortures and kills even more people so it's okay.

America is also recently responsible for hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties in Iraq and surrounding countries. We continue to support a military junta in Egypt -- anyone want to dredge up Obama's beautiful speech about freedom he made in Cairo?

No one has really responded to my question, how bad must your employer be, apparently torture isn't bad enough, before you refuse to work for him, or at least stop applauding people who sign up to go help out at the torture club.