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Death Cab for Cutie’s Ben Gibbard Deconstructs the Science of Songwriting

93 points| sarahf | 11 years ago |medium.com

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[+] mturmon|11 years ago|reply
Besides the OP, and Suzanne Vega's recent series of posts for the NYT, here's another, almost completely opposite, guide to songwriting, extracted from a (very) long article by David Samuels from n+1 cheekily called "Justin Timberlake Has a Cold" --

While [Mike] Caren’s rules are not comprehensive or exclusive, it is easy to measure their value by a glance at the dozens of gold and platinum records hanging in his office. He is happy to run down his rules for me.

“First, it starts with an expression of ‘Hey,’ ‘Oops,’ ‘Excuse me,’” he begins. “Second is a personal statement: ‘I’m a hustler, baby,’ ‘I wanna love you,’ ‘I need you tonight.’ Third is telling you what to do: ‘Put your hands up,’ ‘Give me all your love,’ ‘Jump.’ Fourth is asking a question: ‘Will you love me tomorrow,’ ‘Where have you been all my life,’ ‘Will the real Slim Shady please stand up.’”

He takes a deep breath, and rattles off another four rules. “Five is logic,” he says, “which could be counting, or could be spelling or phonetics: ‘1-2-3-4, let the bodies hit the floor,’ or ‘Ca-li-fornia is comp-li-cated,’ those kind of things. Six would be catchphrases that roll off the tip of your tongue because you know them: ‘Never say never,’ ‘Rain on my parade.’ Seven would be what we call stutter, like, ‘D-d-don’t stop the beat,’ but it could also be repetition: ‘Will the real Slim Shady please stand up, please stand up, please stand up.’ Eight is going back to logic again, like hot or cold, heaven or hell, head to toe, all those kind of things.” The ninth rule of hit songwriting is silence.

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His favorite example of a song that uses the most rules in the fewest words is a hit by the rapper Ludacris, “What’s Your Fantasy,” which starts off with the lyric “I wanna li-li-li-lick you from your head to your toes.” Caren loves that song. “In the first line: a personal statement, ‘I want to,’ a stutter, repetition, ‘li-lick you,’ logic, ‘from your head to your toes, move from the bed down to the down to the, to the floor,’” he explains. “‘I gotta know’—another personal statement—and asks a question, ‘What’s your fantasy?’ So he’s got six of them, in the first two lines of the song.”

[+] uniclaude|11 years ago|reply
I feel like this comment provided more information on the topic than the whole article. Great writeup.
[+] cpeterso|11 years ago|reply
A similar deconstruction of pop songs is "The Manual (How to Have a Number One the Easy Way)" by The Timelords/The KLF. It's a tongue-in-cheek guide to achieving a No. 1 single with no money or musical skills:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual

[+] aaronbrethorst|11 years ago|reply

    The Photo Album is my least favorite record we’ve
    ever made because it was a really difficult,
    arduous process to make it. We almost broke up
    during the recording of the record and then the
    tour after that was horrible. I look back on that
    record and I think I didn’t have enough songs —
    I barely had 10 songs and two of the 10 were barely
    complete thoughts.
Funny, given that The Photo Album is usually one of the top 2-3 Death Cab albums[1] of their most dedicated, long-term fans. For what it's worth, I think the second half of Kintsugi is weak, and I hope that this isn't a result of Walla's departure.

[1] Mine are probably Transatlanticism, Plans, and The Photo Album, although The Open Door EP holds a special place in my heart.

[+] bpyne|11 years ago|reply
Michael Stipe said in an interview that "Fables of the Reconstruction" was his least liked record. When they recorded it the band was exhausted from touring, they were burned out and very negative. The negativity made for a dark record. He felt the negativity wasn't what they were about. That album is one of my favorites because of the darkness.

Ben addressed this divide between the artist and fan in the interview. It's so true that the context in which a song is heard becomes part of the song in a person's memory.

I'm a recently-become fan of DCfC. I can already tell that I'm going to listen to their songs many times over and think about every lyric in their albums the same way I did with REM.

[+] Jgrubb|11 years ago|reply
I haven't given it a critical listen yet, but have run through it a few times since I discovered it's existence (yesterday). I was apprehensive when I found out (yesterday) that Walla had split, but it's reassuringly solid so far to me.

What's up with the marketing though? I stumbled on this new one in Spotify trying to find some older stuff that I don't have.

[+] joshschreuder|11 years ago|reply
Plans was my first album they heard (like a lot of people I suppose), though I would probably say We Have The Facts and Transatlanticism are pretty close to being my favourites.

Oddly enough, I never got into The Photo Album, despite trying to listen to it many times. I should give it another go.

[+] tptacek|11 years ago|reply
Disappointing, given the title.
[+] aesthetics1|11 years ago|reply
Yeah, it really just touches on the 2 recent plagiarism issues. They then go on discussing the new album basically. Not much "science" if you ask me.
[+] rrss1122|11 years ago|reply
Considering that Death Cab For Cutie isn't even that good, I would have been disappointed either way.