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Take me as an Intern – 19yo student seeking internship

533 points| MarekDlugos | 11 years ago |hostmeinca.com

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soneca|11 years ago

Your page looks great because you have great skills and achievements to show. Remember that. You are getting A LOT of attention in HN, that will sure be picked up by another places on the interwebs.

So, my piece of advice: do not use this fame and fall in temptation to start capitalizaing solely on your personal brand, giving lectures, interviews, writing books on how to be hired by the hottest startups and other distractions. Keep focusing on working hard to build things. You are doing a great job on this so far. Congrats!

MarekDlugos|11 years ago

Thank you @soneca a lot for your advice. I think you are right and I will remember it.

themodelplumber|11 years ago

If you already know how to build simple things, why not write some books and get publicity if you have the chance? It would only increase demand for things that you are hoping to build in the future. I can build things like crazy and I'm still hoping to write a book...someday...

nickysielicki|11 years ago

As a 20 year old I'm frustrated that your eye for design is way better than mine, but at the same time, I'm also frustrated that you're listing projects and they're not on your github, nor are they apparently deployed at all... The images aren't hyperlinks.

* Wire clothing - there are a billion clothing brands with wire in the name, which one is yours?

* VIDBY - google search shows nothing in first 3 pages.

* Mobile App - where can I see it?

* upload.it - URL definitely does not resolve to the site pictured.

* School Site - where can I see it?

* eStavebny Dennik - See, this one's real and it's awesome! http://www.estavebnydennik.sk/

EDIT: They do exist, disregard this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9459684

I've mocked websites and apps before too, but I always am sure to note that I've mocked it, not built it. If you're a front end web designer, there's no shame in that, there's a lot you can do with that. This site and eStavebny are more than enough to impress people. If the other stuff was available to look at, that'd be cool too. But don't mislead people, because if they're going to hire you, they are going to want to look deeper.

Last month my dad was telling me about the interns he was interviewing for this summer. He said he was most frustrated by the amount of overselling that these kids were doing for themselves. No, your management experience of managing your highschool robotics team is not relevant at a fortune 500 company. Related to this is the problem with college admissions. Everyone has a 4.0 with multiple APs and played varsity sports and can write a boring essay. Everyone is afraid to admit what they don't know. And I don't mean unknown unknowns, I mean known unknowns.

I'm coexisting in this problem just as much as you are, and I just want to say that I hate this. I wish we could all be honest with our skills and I wish employers would appreciate that honesty more. But we can't afford to be modest and honest, so I guess can't fault you for doing what we all do.

It's like steroids in baseball.

geographomics|11 years ago

Well the school website definitely exists: http://www.spse-po.sk/

And there is a github repo for his "upload.it" project, which appears to be a collaboration: https://github.com/mochja/odovzdaj.to

The Wire Clothing brand appears to be a work in progress as of the start of this month: https://dribbble.com/shots/2003539-WIRE-Clothing-brand-label, https://dribbble.com/shots/2004870--WIP-Wire-Shirts

And VIDEBY, which was also a collaboration, seems to be a school project only: https://www.google.com/search?q="videby"+site:sk

So his work doesn't seem to be that much oversold, though I agree it would be nice to see more detail than a screenshot.

silverbax88|11 years ago

I have hired a lot of developers over the last 15 years and not once have I cared if they have a github account.

MarekDlugos|11 years ago

Yes you are right man. I wanted to add links on that stuff in next commit.

lachenmayer|11 years ago

Hey Marek, I see you've been accepted at UCL, would you like to check out what London is like?

We at HackCampus http://hackcampus.io/ could offer you a 10-week internship at some amazing startups (GoCardless, SwiftKey, Kano and more) in London this summer. It's well-paid, and we'll give you free accommodation over the summer with a batch of other awesome student hackers like yourself.

http://hackcampus.io/internship/

I can give you more details over email, harry at hackcampus.io :)

neoromantique|11 years ago

#Not Marek

Wanted to apply on your website, during registration received error 500, then CSRF verification failed. Request Aborted. And then My username is taken.

Reproduce-able too, I guess I should stop being admin and go into QA? :D

interdrift|10 years ago

Hello, I've just applied for that amazing opportunity. Thanks for posting. One thing I've noticed for which I'm too shy to send you an e-mail is if you go to :

http://hackcampus.io/internship/settings/ it says :

Username Enter your current password.

Just thought I should let you know, again, great opportunity hope I have the opportunity to meet with you someday :).

quadrature|11 years ago

Is this only for students in the UK ?

krmmalik|11 years ago

Do you have any students or know or any place that would be interested in interning for digital marketing, growth hacking, social media related work? And does the payment come from the start-up or from sort of fund you have setup? Would love to chat further if you have time. Kam[at]krmmalik dot com

Thank you.

jacks205|11 years ago

If you guys are real "hackers", why can't I just log in with my GitHub? I mean I don't want to fill out a custom username/password for your site when all my coding related stuff can be regulated from GitHub Auth.

agentultra|11 years ago

Nice looking site!

One piece of advice: don't put C, C++, etc on your resume unless you're really comfortable with those languages and want to focus on them. Your resume highlights your design skills and projects using web technologies. Great! Focus on those!

For example, your Github has no examples of C programming skills and your resume doesn't highlight any projects where you'd likely use C. If you were interested in getting an internship where you'd primarily be programming in C you'd be better off focusing on highlighting projects that interest you which use that language. You'd stand out if you had contributions on Github or your own libraries or applications on Github written in C.

blackkettle|11 years ago

he says 'a basic understanding of...', and 'code a simple app using...' it's clearly not the focus, but i don't see any problem with that. the only thing i take away is 'he won't run away in terror if i show him some c++'.

sgeisenh|11 years ago

A lot of interviewers like to ensure that you're comfortable with pointers and the distinction between the stack and the heap. It can be nice to list a familiarity on your resume just to let people know that you're comfortable with those kinds of questions.

daddykotex|11 years ago

From the source :

<!-- Hello stranger... Yep! I write clean code, enjoy it! :) -->

Hahah, you sure know HN! Good luck!

johnloeber|11 years ago

Just fyi, you have a typo on your "What can I bring to your team?" page. You misspelled "radically" as "radicaly".

Otherwise it looks great -- good going! Very impressive for a high-school student.

tdsamardzhiev|11 years ago

Also it should be "special prize", not "special price".

And yeah, I do feel kinda awkward criticizing such a beautiful portfolio for its grammar :)

rxt|11 years ago

Also "databeses" in the "Experience with databeses" line.

slayed0|11 years ago

While we're at it, under 'Upload.it' you wrote:

App to make uploading and downloading exam results more easier.

Just need to take out "more"

ARCarr|11 years ago

And on his resume under Design Skills it says "Web Desing" not "Web Design".

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argklm|11 years ago

I don't see anything exceptional about this. There are a lot of tutorials and a lot of sites guiding you through building a site like that. You should never put yourself in a situation to ask for something. You must put others in the situation to ask for you. Making a website like countless others and having no substantial code to back off what you are claiming, won't put you in front of countless of other talented people that are a lot more humble than you. Talented companies have talented eyes seeking for talent, don't put only a good mask on. I wanted to say this, because I want you in a good company and I hope that you will get the best of life. Keep working on your path: mastering a framework is tenfold valuable than a "simple understanding". Regards

memonkey|11 years ago

Maybe because he's 19?

I agree though. This is not exceptional or very impressive. I don't really get why this has more upvotes than the 14 year old kid who posted a relatively way cooler site that utilized a bunch of APIs, etc.

porter|11 years ago

Congrats. You put a lot of American job seeking college kids to shame.

EricSu|11 years ago

I'm a 20yo college student...definitely feeling inferior for not being this proactive as a high schooler. But I'm currently in my second internship and I can definitely say I got hired because of personal projects such as this that highlight your skills and your interest in using those skills inside and outside of class/work environments, so great job and good luck!

jacks205|11 years ago

This guy is selling out hard. Coming from a guy with a more active GitHub and projects, I don't see how this guy is any different than any American college kid.

Johnie|11 years ago

Since he's from Slovakia, does he have the visa status to work in the US? Will a startup go through H1-B process for a summer intern?

Also, if he doesn't go through the formal visa process and tries to do his summer internship with a visitor visa, he may be banned from the US for 10 years. Given that he's publicly publicizing coming to the US to work, it would be very easy for USCIS to block his entry into the US.

c0g|11 years ago

Having just got a J1 visa myself, he'd be well served with J1. It lets you work in the US for up to 6 months in an internship. Might still be time!

josu|11 years ago

He doesn't say that he wants to work in the US though, or maybe I have missed it.

But there are some pretty cool startups in Europe too, and given that Slovakia is part of Schengen he wouldn't have any problems with the visa if he were to work in Europe.

dcre|11 years ago

Very nice. Just one tip – in one of your testimonials Cristina uses the word "pedant". She probably meant you're good with details (or that you're a good teacher), but at least in the US, that word almost always has the negative connotation of being too concerned with details.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pedant

thescrewdriver|11 years ago

> "There is still 1 month, 1 day, 6 hours, 55 minutes and 21 seconds until summer, which gives me a lot of time to learn new skills that you might need!"

Awesome attitude towards learning new skills!

thornofmight|11 years ago

Why do you want to intern? Seems like with your skills you could just work (and get paid for) a real job.

jvehent|11 years ago

I don't know if that's the case here, but a lot of European colleges require summer internships. Compensation is sometimes permitted, but status of employment must be an internship.

ethanbond|11 years ago

In the US tech industry, internships are actually fantastic, fantastic investments. You get paid incredibly well, get good names on your resume without 2+ year long commitments, get to network with a variety of people (2-4 companies/regions/industries in 2-4 years) and gives you amazing bargaining power when you head into a full time position.

c0g|11 years ago

It's been my experience that tech internships are paid some reasonable fraction of what a full timer would get in exchange for a more interested program of work - I get paid 50% of what a full timer does, but I get more training and more flexibility in what I work on.

ethnt|11 years ago

A lot of places won't hire someone full-time for just the summer. I was in the same situation: I could have applied for a full-time job, but I can't be full time once school starts up again.

sean-duffy|11 years ago

Agreed, if indeed he is using "internship" to mean "unpaid internship". Far too much importance is placed on unpaid work these days, particularly in tech, and it just isn't needed. He clearly has enough experience to spend his summer doing actual work, and should be compensated for it.

radicality|11 years ago

Doing an internship is sometimes more 'profitable' than not doing one. If you go with one of the big companies, you'll have a similar to full-time new grad salary plus free accommodation of really high quality that would normally cost you in the Bay Area easily upwards of 3k a month.

Raphmedia|11 years ago

This is better than the websites of half the web agencies out there.

Bahamut|11 years ago

You should remove the word "with" from those titles - the bullet points don't flow properly when appended to the titles

CPLX|11 years ago

Listen to this person. This is the one glaring thing I noticed, it makes your wording sound stereotypically Eastern European, and is jarring in comparison to a document that otherwise flows quite well.

sheepmaniac|11 years ago

Small advice: do something with those brackets. They are in the middle of the page and their misalignment with coding skills section is infuriating (at least for me).

zaszrespawned|11 years ago

Talk about being web savvy at intern age..

pistle|11 years ago

I increasingly come to expect this sort of product since kids coming up expect their products to be like this.

He may be a leader in this, but the group coming up definitely will be demonstrating the "Yes, and..." attitude in terms of design and features. The new kids invigorate the game, which is great.

sebg|11 years ago

Great work!

One thing - pretty much everything you wrote is about you...Which is great, but it would be more compelling if removed any mention of yourself and made it all about the company who is going to hire you.

xmpirate|11 years ago

Hey your resume looks impressive. Can you tell me how you made the resume? Latex or anything? The design and presentation of skills is great! I'm 20 too and want to update my resume.

phaemon|11 years ago

Creator : PDF Presentation Adobe Photoshop CC 2014

saigrandhi|11 years ago

I think he used InDesign or some other software like that.

thesimon|11 years ago

Your page looks great, the photo is really nice and the mailto title is a nice touch.

<shamelessplug> I should've thought about submitting to HN too :) http://simon-schraeder.de/summer/

endymi0n|11 years ago

Sounds like you could have fun with our team at JustWatch... </shameless self plug> Just sayin :)

philip1209|11 years ago

I'm confused - where does he want to work? Domain is "hostmeinca" which I read as "Host me in Canada" but could mean California - and he doesn't really specify anything except that he lives in Slovakia right now.

buraksarica|11 years ago

This kid will go places.

therobot24|11 years ago

seriously, that's a great looking resume - though it would be nice if i could click on one of the skills (e.g., Print Design) and see some examples

gabeio|11 years ago

I would love to make a resume page like this, and have the balls to publicize it, I just have this super strong aversion to do such a thing because of the amount of creepy people on the internet.

cozuya|11 years ago

Guess I'll be that guy - the design and content is nice and well done, but this is just bootstrap copy/paste to me; I don't see a lot of "coding talent" evident.

Not to say he doesn't have it, but creating a site like this basically requires finding a similar one and learning what classes to put into your bootstrap markup.

justathrow2k|11 years ago

For what its worth, I agree with you. That is to say, I feel like a lot of the people here giving out praise are being a bit excessive with it and this is simply a flavour of the day paint by numbers web page. Still, it's a good effort for a kid in college looking to get an internship.

yuncun|11 years ago

tbf he is looking for an internship

danielvinson|11 years ago

FYI in the US it is considered inappropriate to have your picture on a resume.

_wwz4|11 years ago

If he were sending a standard printed resume through the mail then you might have a point. This online version is something different and I doubt that anyone looking for talent would disqualify him for having his picture on there.

cpfohl|11 years ago

Although it is a resume, it's also in a different medium than the resume 'rules' apply to. So I'd argue it's ok to break some of the typical rules.

devinsnyder|11 years ago

US citizen here. I've attached a photo on my resume. No one has brought that up as a complaint for me.

davidiach|11 years ago

At the same time, most companies check your social media profiles online and some even decide if they invite you to interviews based on what they see there.

Nadya|11 years ago

I consider this outdated due to the age of Social Media where people can be easily searched up and identified to see what they look like.

The reasons for not attaching a photo are largely out of date.

meow_mix|11 years ago

Translation: "Hi, I'm Marek Dlugos and I'm the most pretentious 19 year old ever"

sailfast|11 years ago

You're the person that posted the same site two years back, right? (saw on your CV, and remembered the first site).

I was impressed at the time but alas am not in California. Did you ever find a host family in California when you posted this the first time?

logicallee|11 years ago

and they say geography isn't destiny. a design like this can get a solo founder a $2M valuation on an idea in the valley (making him an instant millionaire), whereas a slovakian is trying hard to close an internsihp (meaning he hasn't gotten $8/hr, or 1/250000th of that amount.)

1/250000th.

SomeCollegeBro|11 years ago

I think you need a little bit more than a website to get a valuation...

justathrow2k|11 years ago

A design like that coupled with a product that people think has some value, perhaps.

mholt|11 years ago

Brilliant work. I wish I had your skills at 19. The photography and design mesh perfectly well together.

I bet you will have no problem getting to the USA to study and work.

HNdev1995|11 years ago

For work - what about H1B visa? Even if a company agrees to go through the process, he still has a slim chance of getting the visa, right?

I am just trying to familiarise myself to the process since I will be going through it next year.

pierotofy|11 years ago

As long as you have enough money to pay tuition without scholarships (and paying the non-resident rate)... sure!

Being sarcastic here, finding a job (or studying as an undergraduate) in the U.S. as a foreigner unfortunately has very little to do with skills. Unless you have something very unique that a company decides to seek you out for!

diimdeep|11 years ago

Personal Branding well done.

elchief|11 years ago

I managed to graduate high school near the end of the early 90s recession, university at the beginning of the dot com bust, and B-School in the beginning of the 2008 meltdown.

I promise to never to go back to school again.

kidsthesedays|11 years ago

Good god can we please stop with the photos? Do you people really want to go back to the 1950s where a photo was required with a resume? Do you really want your potential employers to be judging you on your looks/race/ethnicity at the resume stage? It may be beneficial to you (you are the "correct" race and gender and you look young and not ugly) but for those of us that aren't - we don't want pressure to include photos because that will make our resume look unattractive to potential employers.

vacri|11 years ago

This isn't a submitted resume, it's a marketing site.

Would you have all marketing sites also strip out photo portraits? A ton of enterprise services have landing pages with the portrait of an attractive support officer talking into a headset, or some besuited office worker tapping into a keyboard.

kocsmy|11 years ago

Especially when his IG is way too overloaded with self-photo shoots :-)

iak8god|11 years ago

Including a photo with resume/cv is much more common in Europe than the US.

nakovet|11 years ago

The site looks great, I wish I had the frontend skills to do anything 5 times worst than this, I just don't get the sentence at the bottom:

> I HAVE DONE THIS SITE DURING ONE WEEK, INSTEAD OF LEARNING FOR MY LEAVING EXAMS AND PARTYING WITH MY FRIENDS. I HOPE IT IS GONNA BE WORTH IT!

Did you fail your exams? I had a feeling that you wanted to mention college is not that important because saying this is cool these days. Nevertheless, that's just my interpretation, kudos for the site and the projects listed.

Taasden|11 years ago

Translation:

> I DID THIS SITE IN A WEEK INSTEAD OF STUDYING FOR MY EXIT EXAMS OR PARTYING WITH FRIENDS. I HOPE IT WAS WORTH IT!

ChristianGeek|11 years ago

Very impressive...If your skills are as good as you claim, I'd hire you full-time now if I had an opening; you may want to reconsider whether finishing school is a worthwhile investment of your time and money.

One small tip on your site: Get rid of the word "with" in the "I can help you with" headings. It's grammatically incorrect for the way your lists are phrased, and having "I can help you" appear three times on the page is a nice subliminal message!

agounaris|11 years ago

I hope this will not be the start of a spam-fest by others. Good luck with your job seeking.

goffley3|11 years ago

Great job on your website. I would fill out your GitHub a little bit more so people can see your code. I'm jealous a little bit that I didn't get into web development as young as you did. Keep it up and continue to build awesome stuff!

brianzelip|11 years ago

Great markup - I especially enjoy that `<main>` is used for only (some wrapping `<div>`s and) an `<h1>` which conveys the authors main call: "This summer I’d like to be your Intern (June - September)"!

nbrempel|11 years ago

Wow there seems to be a lot of negative comments here. Do I sense a bit of jealousy?

hamandcheese|11 years ago

Now you can add "Made it to the HN front page" to your resume!

Brajeshwar|11 years ago

Minor Typo in "<meta property="og:title" content="A 19 year old student student is looking for an internship">"

JDiculous|11 years ago

Great website! But FYI, in the "Just shoot me an email" part towards the bottom, the text goes outside the screen on my Samsung Galaxy S4

ttty|11 years ago

>Experience with databeses

Typo in "databeses"

Good looking resume (:

alpacaaa|11 years ago

Wish you best of luck dude, very well done.

whoisthemachine|11 years ago

Great resume. I agree with the others, I am jealous of the skills you have displayed at your age.

tomw1808|11 years ago

Now, I love that design ... it looks like we could never afford you. :)

spacecadet|11 years ago

You must have ideas? Skip all this and just run with one of those.

infinitone|11 years ago

Great presentation and design skill, you'll def land something. Though if you want big 4 or even big 20 tech companies, then you'll need to show more real code. A good 20k loc app would be nice.

jakejake|11 years ago

Seeing as how he is just finishing high school yet, I'm guessing he will have more code on his resume by the time he's looking for a job in 4 years. Although, with the speed of things, who knows what will be the hot skills then!

dfinninger|11 years ago

Eh, I mean the dude is 19 and in High School. I sure as heck didn't have time for a 20k app while in school.

blt|11 years ago

Personal Branding!

thomasahle|11 years ago

I like the star graph in the bottom a lot :)

kenrick|11 years ago

Really nice job. Fix the instagram link :)

HNdev1995|11 years ago

Where are you hosting this website?

karnajani|11 years ago

This is awesome. I'm not in CA, but I hope a team over there picks you up.

chrisper|11 years ago

I don't think that would happen as there are enough people here seeking for an internship.

mceoin|11 years ago

small typo: "Experience with databeses."

Should be databases

andrewmcwatters|11 years ago

Did you steal some of that code from Visual Idiot instead of creating your own version?

http://www.hostmeinca.com/assets/js/animated-background.js

http://vaguelyexciting.com/js/site.js

Edit: Thanks HN; I wasn't aware the code was from Codrops. Move along, folks, nothing to see here.

Sorry dude! Nice site. Don't go for an internship though. You command an escalation of experience that opens doors to regular full time positions. You clearly don't know what you've got.

AgentConundrum|11 years ago

"Steal" seems to be a slightly strong word. It looks like it's open source and just missing the license.[1]

I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt rather than jump straight to accusations.

[1] I didn't look too hard, but I came up with this link quickly: https://gist.github.com/benjaminsinger/ad5231be7748de3a9a11#... - I didn't immediately see the license on the original it was forked from, but this one has a license, so I assume there's some sort of compatibility.

roneesh|11 years ago

His entire page is a composite of other people's open source work, the achievement isn't in writing anything new, it's just in how well it's been put together.

kylecesmat|11 years ago

AFAIK This script came from Tympanus/Codrops, not VI. I've used a version of this script as well for a project. I mean, it'd be better if Marek used even a modified background instead of taking the entire example from Codrops, but I don't think it would be 'stealing' as much as reusing tutorial code.

Link - http://tympanus.net/codrops/2014/09/23/animated-background-h... (Click 'View Demo')

CamatHN|11 years ago

I think the code is on Github. Stealing code is part of the job these days if a license allows.

olso|11 years ago

I want to see how he approaches this. Since this site is about him and "his" work.

ohitsdom|11 years ago

Interesting, how did you even catch this?

juliangregorian|11 years ago

"steal" as if you never used someone else's code. There's not even a notice on the original, I'm hard pressed to find him at fault.

Deebot|11 years ago

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