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Show HN: Compare LGBT Rights Between Any Country, State, or Province

50 points| danlev | 10 years ago |equaldex.com | reply

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[+] DanBC|10 years ago|reply
This page says homosexual activity has been legal in the UK since 2000.

Where is it getting that, and which part of the UK does it apply to?

Same sex sexual activity was legalised in England and Wales in 1967; in Scotland in 1981; and 1982 for NI.

The age of consent was equalised in 2001 (for England, Wales, and Scotland) and 2009 for NI.

[+] Squarel|10 years ago|reply
If you look at each country individually within the UK, it shows the correct details.

I suspect it is because in the original law, there were nuances such as "The privacy restrictions of the Act meant a third person could not be present and that gay men could not have sex in a hotel. These restrictions were overturned in the European Court of Human Rights in 2000"

[+] danlev|10 years ago|reply
I'm looking into that right now. Not sure why both of those entries are referring to the age of consent rather than simply homosexual activity being legal/illegal (the both received quite a few accurate votes too). Age of consent has a separate section further down the page.
[+] reubenmorais|10 years ago|reply
If you click on "Details" under the entry it'll show you the source, the user who added it, and the number of upvotes. It seems to be crowdsourced.
[+] auganov|10 years ago|reply
Would be cool for the "Equality Index" to be 2 or multi dimensional. I feel like laws on adoption, gender/sex change, age of consent, blood donations, marriage etc. fall on the absolute/objective liberty spectrum. While stuff like anti-discrimination laws, housing policies, conversion therapy bans etc are interventionist regulations.

Also needs more categories/granularity.

http://get.lgbt you should get one :D

[+] dom96|10 years ago|reply
The text box for inputting countries seems to be a bit broken. Seems to stop giving suggestions after some time or it just me?
[+] danlev|10 years ago|reply
I've run into that issue a few times but I thought I fixed it. Before, reloading seemed to have fixed it. I'll look into it though. Thanks for pointing it out! :)
[+] heynk|10 years ago|reply
On the 'comparison' pages, the Equality Index score is listed as a horizontal bar chart, which makes at-a-glance comparison impossible. If you need to keep it as a bar, please consider making them vertical, so you can easily compare visually. Currently, I'm only able to compare that score based on color, so places with the same color aren't comparable on that metric. Personally, I'd prefer if you just put your number there.

Of course, I can just keep using right click -> Inspect Element :)

[+] danlev|10 years ago|reply
Great point about the Equality Index being vertical -- that's something I've been considering.

Regarding it being represented as a number, I originally wanted to include that, however, the way the Equality Index is calculated is pretty rudimentary. Creating a number representing the "amount of equality" people have is going to be pretty arbitrary, especially without enough public opinion data. Eventually, once it becomes more sophisticated/accurate, and I include more data points and surveys, maybe I will reconsider. For now, I purposely left it as an unlabeled bar so that it's a little clearer that it's a "rough visualization."

[+] fiatjaf|10 years ago|reply
Why, for "Conversion therapy", being banned is the best status possible, according to this website?
[+] danlev|10 years ago|reply
"Conversion therapy" is a controversial therapy used to "convert" gay people "back to straight." The process is almost always heavily influenced by religion, and can be very harmful, psychologically. Some gay people are forced into this against their will, by their parents. There have been cases where people have committed suicide or had suicidal thoughts.

The organizations who run the therapy are super sketchy as well.

Wikipedia has some extensive information on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy

[+] tgb|10 years ago|reply
I think it comes down to a game theory style argument. Most people who would undergo this would do so unwillingly by pressure from family, religion, etc. and face large downsides. The small minority that actually desires to do this are hurt by making it illegal, but the large majority that would otherwise be coerced into it are spared.

Many laws banning sexual practices are more justifiable under such laws. If society were different, such a law would be net negative, but instead it's a good idea. Thomas Schelling's "The Strategy of Conflict" talks a lot about ideas like these style arguments and I would recommend reading it. For example, it is often illegal to take or display a picture of your voting ballot, since making that universally illegal makes coercing votes harder.

[+] anExcitedBeast|10 years ago|reply
I like it. Would be cool to apply the concept to more ideas, like free speech, religious/atheist freedom, gun rights, economic freedom/protections.
[+] lukasm|10 years ago|reply
Homosexuality was never illegal in Poland. It wasn't regulated before 1932.
[+] danlev|10 years ago|reply
The site is crowdsourced, so if you click "Accurate?: No" on anything incorrect (on a country's page), you can supply details so that our moderators can look into it. :) Thanks!
[+] personjerry|10 years ago|reply
> Any Country

Off the top of my head, where's Japan and China?

[+] bratch|10 years ago|reply
I can't even find my own home, although people do like to debate whether it is a country, state or province.