Not a massive fan of "...all versions of Visual Studio 2013 and 2015 will require you to sign in using a Microsoft account..." though. [source: from an email]
I don't understand the reasoning behind that at all.
OK, MS wants our data. So do Apple, Google, FB. No news. But they already have everything: The user (MS account) when downloading VS. The id of the copy (serial number or whatever), all kind of information related to the Windows Version, the currently logged in user, machine data, ... VS or Windows can collect usage data, etc.
Why do they want me to sign in VS? They already have it all, don't they?
> Not a massive fan of "...all versions of Visual Studio 2013 and 2015 will require you to sign in using a Microsoft account..." though. [source: from an email]
You don't need to sign in if you specify a retail product key [1].
Umm.. I don't think that is true. I use VS2013 for work and it only asks for that during the first time launch and provides a "skip for now" link at the bottom. The behavior is same even with community edition.
Remember, this is Microsoft we're talking about here, which means we've got about 50/50 chance of only half the company actually following through and implementing this ;)
Do not, under any circumstance, underestimate the sheer insanity of any Microsoft licensing scheme. At my new $dayjob, they spend $1-2MM/year on Microsoft licenses and support, and it's taken close to 9 months to get Microsoft to fix some incorrectly issued licenses. Not to mention, Microsoft has rolled out some new license portal that only like TWO people know about at Microsoft, so a bunch of shiny new licenses (to the tune of $750K) went "missing" because no one, even our Microsoft rep, apparently knew about the new portal which the licenses had been created in (and which, in fine Microsoft tradition, does not support any of our old licenses...)
As the only linux guy here, it is astounding, absolutely astounding to me, how many man hours are wasted just dealing with Microsoft licensing. They probably could have ported their entire stack to open source alternatives in the time it's taken just to get our SQL Server licenses straightened out. But I get the feeling that being a Microsoft shop means you have to develop Stockholm Syndrome just to make it through your day, or else you'd go mad from dealing with Microsoft and their VARs.
I'm kinda bummed that they are waiting for what seems like an arbitrary date to non-VS devs (I do my dev work on a Linux personal machine and an OSX work machine). But hey, I can wait a couple extra days, I suppose.
Tangential: New to c++ dev on Linux after years with devstudio/windows. What do you guys recommend for a dev env for a guy like me (say on a mac). Thanks!
If you are on a Mac, you should definitely give a try to XCode it is, after all, the official Apple IDE. Not even close to Visual Studio, but not as bad (for C++ at least) as many people advertise.
For Linux, Kdevelop seems nice, other Linux C++ IDEs: Eclipse, NetBeans, CLion.
You should also probably try Vim and Emacs at least once, start with their included tutorials.
[+] [-] jsingleton|10 years ago|reply
Not a massive fan of "...all versions of Visual Studio 2013 and 2015 will require you to sign in using a Microsoft account..." though. [source: from an email]
[+] [-] FreddyQ44|10 years ago|reply
OK, MS wants our data. So do Apple, Google, FB. No news. But they already have everything: The user (MS account) when downloading VS. The id of the copy (serial number or whatever), all kind of information related to the Windows Version, the currently logged in user, machine data, ... VS or Windows can collect usage data, etc.
Why do they want me to sign in VS? They already have it all, don't they?
Or are there simpler (less paranoid :-)) reasons?
[+] [-] taspeotis|10 years ago|reply
You don't need to sign in if you specify a retail product key [1].
[1] http://sanderstechnology.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/imag...
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[+] [-] drfritznunkie|10 years ago|reply
Do not, under any circumstance, underestimate the sheer insanity of any Microsoft licensing scheme. At my new $dayjob, they spend $1-2MM/year on Microsoft licenses and support, and it's taken close to 9 months to get Microsoft to fix some incorrectly issued licenses. Not to mention, Microsoft has rolled out some new license portal that only like TWO people know about at Microsoft, so a bunch of shiny new licenses (to the tune of $750K) went "missing" because no one, even our Microsoft rep, apparently knew about the new portal which the licenses had been created in (and which, in fine Microsoft tradition, does not support any of our old licenses...)
As the only linux guy here, it is astounding, absolutely astounding to me, how many man hours are wasted just dealing with Microsoft licensing. They probably could have ported their entire stack to open source alternatives in the time it's taken just to get our SQL Server licenses straightened out. But I get the feeling that being a Microsoft shop means you have to develop Stockholm Syndrome just to make it through your day, or else you'd go mad from dealing with Microsoft and their VARs.
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Edit: I see Jetbrains has CLion. Any good?
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[+] [-] RoboSeldon|10 years ago|reply
If you are on a Mac, you should definitely give a try to XCode it is, after all, the official Apple IDE. Not even close to Visual Studio, but not as bad (for C++ at least) as many people advertise.
For Linux, Kdevelop seems nice, other Linux C++ IDEs: Eclipse, NetBeans, CLion.
You should also probably try Vim and Emacs at least once, start with their included tutorials.
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