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pmr_ | 10 years ago

Starting to play sound without user confirmation is a default tab-close. I wont even take the time to look at it. Bonus point for not being flash that hijacks the browser shortcut.

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Ianvdl|10 years ago

The sound is not particularly intrusive or loud, and you clicked on a link that said "Listen" in the title.

Generally I dislike websites that randomly start playing sound (and follow the same tab-close behaviour), but this was not ill-advertised or unexpected.

pmr_|10 years ago

As others I had a totally different expectation given the title. I thought it would be a piece about how Wikipedia had some message or lesson that we should listen to. I think the author had no bad intentions and what he build is probably worth looking at. I was just pointing out how a mistake in web design made me completely ignore this website because I felt it violated my control over my computer.

cbd1984|10 years ago

You can't know how intrusive or loud sound is. It has an area effect that normal website media doesn't.

ggreer|10 years ago

While I agree with the sentiment, in this case all I can say is: You're missing out. I enjoyed the relaxing, ambient-ish sounds combined with tempting links to Wikipedia articles.

I'm not sure there is a good solution to auto-playing. People are fine with it on well-known sites like YouTube, Vimeo, Soundcloud, etc. And most people, when they unwittingly click on a YouTube link, blame the person who made the link, not the site itself. Bizarrely, the target of ire shifts to the site if it's not popular enough.

pmr_|10 years ago

I just went clicking randomly on Vimeo links and I didn't find a single auto-playing video.

You are right about YouTube and I actually think they should handle visitors that come from outside YouTube differently than visitors from inside the site. In the first case auto-play is annoying in the second it is what is wanted.

ersii|10 years ago

How do you know that most people are fine with automatic playback on popular sites like YouTube, Vimeo and Soundcloud?

(Genuine question, as you stated it as a matter of fact. Not trying to be obtuse or annoying.)

michaelx386|10 years ago

It would be good to have a "click to unmute" option as the default for how a browser handles audio. Click to play works well for Flash plugins, it might be good for audio as well.

agumonkey|10 years ago

I wish for a time disabled extension. Basically turning the browser into an html/css based image renderer. No more animated ads, autoplay audio/video. Heaven.

trymas|10 years ago

+1.

When I come to HN, I usually read all topics on the front page, then open interesting ones in tabs. After opening 10 tabs, I hear music, then I find the culprit, close the tab, do not look back.

Never play music without user permission.

rosstex|10 years ago

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pmr_|10 years ago

Why should I adapt my usage patterns to accommodate the shitty behavior of a few websites? Also, are you sure you are in position to tell other people how to use the web? I certainly don't think I am.