darebak's comments

100 present day South Koreans will have 6 great-grandchildren total. That's an extinction level event.

Ofcourse if the current trends continue.

The largest country in Europe is not European?

The EU doesn't have the monopoly on being European or European values.

And those countries were very much economically interdependent.

From what I remember from school, both Slovak and Serbo-Croatian (maybe all Slavic languages?) have this thing where "R" is behaving kinda like a vowel but it's not a vowel. Can't remember what it is called though.

So those that spread hate against Russians can now just say they are calling for violence against the Russian government. It's a cop out.

Not true.

Who started burning books in Cyrillic, firing Serb people from government jobs, fighting in the streets and killing those Croats that were for peace at the start? Whose president refused EC brokering and monetary help but only if Yugoslavia survived?

And it was Yugoslavian army that did those things.

The fact that you can't see the irony in supporting bombing of independent countries and at the same time not supporting it for those same stated reasons is unbelievable.

Donetsk and Lughansk also declared independence years ago, only now is Russia doing something other than financial/military support.

This is so false that I don't know where to begin. Maybe it's best at the end, when in 2004 after all the wars, when UN and NATO troops were actually stationed there, a pogrom of a minority happened just because the majority heard a rumour that they killed some children somewhere bin the country.

I can't open it.

There most certainly is a country of Belarus, just like there's the country of North Korea.

And 60% is not that much to be honest.

It's not cynical, it's exactly what was happening. It was the police that was cracking down on terrorists, not army. Army only became involved with NATO involment. And before you say that Albanian guerilla organizations were not terrorist, the US state department classified them that way up to less than one year before the bombing happened.

And as for that supposed policy of Albanian expulsion, by how much did the percentage of Albanians diminish during the Serbian rule of Kosovo? And by how much did the number of Serbs diminish during the Albanian rule of Kosovo?

It's not arguing about nameing, it's about command line of control. Serb Republic ním Bosnia was a completely different entity than the Republic of Serbia. I mean, Serbia even put sanctions on Serb Republic during some period of the war.

Justifying bombing of Serbia because of Bosnia would be like justifying bombing of Belgium because of the Netherlands. Yeah, sure they are kinda allies but that's it.

And oh, I forgot about this part.

>And were immediately annexed by Russia? How independent is that? Who's the new cultural head of these independent republics?

They were not immediately annexed, no. Russia didn't even recognize them for a couple of years.

>You mentioned that this cannot be said for a lot of EU countries. Turks born in EU do not have to learn German. Immigration within EU is free from language requirement too.

So Turks in Germany can have schools in Turkish for their children? Do you have a source for this?

>I do not even understand why do you think minorities not learning Serbian is impressive?

Because language rights are central for the survival of minority communities.

>Croatia and Kosovo both have schools that can use Serbian in their curriculum and no one is forcing Croatian on them.

Yeah, when they are not being stoned in Kosovo or have their Cyrillic signs smashed in Croatia.

It very clearly is an insult against people because of their nationality but I discovered these days that online communities are a lot more accepting of such statements.

>I mean, except Putin talking about how Ukraine is fake nation that should be part of Russia.

Source?

Exactly, imperial powers don't care about Albanians, Russians, Ukrainians or whomever, it's naive to think that.

>How can you believe this? Which part of Ukraine declared independence?

Didn't those two breakaway republics declare independence?

>Well, if your country is in EU, the citizens of EU are not forced to learn any language, even if they live outside of their country of origin. Language requirements for non-EU exist due to EU being an extremely lucrative place to live. Moving to Serbia and trying to hop on social benefits will not be as lucrative, so language requirement for citizenship might be unnecessary.

I am not talking about EU citizens moving to another country, I am talking about minorities living in Serbia.

I am a part of minority that lived in the now Serbian territory for over 250 years and there's no legal requirement for us to learn Serbian. You can live your perfectly happy life without it. We have our schools, our communities so learning the Serbian language is not a requisite although most people learn it because it offers some benefits.

I found it odd that you thought I was talking about foreigners.

>I think you’re still oversimplifying. NATO countries may have been involved in bloody wars, wars which were varying degrees of bad idea, but at least those wars were fought against regimes which were terrible - brutal and repressive towards their own population. Ukraine is a mostly liberal democracy, which makes invading it even harder to justify.

And the point is that you got this information from the ruling class who were for those wars. Or their allies abroad.

And as for Ukrainan democracy, from the Freedom house report in 2019 it sits between Burkina Faso and the Philippines.

I was using a personal anecdote what happens when some foreigners sanction "our" nation, so I used UEFA as an example. It's a similar mentality when it comes to other kinds of sanctions waged against "our" nation.

>not out of spite for a whole population

You may see it that way, but you and average Russian were consuming different media up to this point, and if we admit or not, media has an enormous influence on our worldview.