glorppe's comments

You did categorically state it: “So vaccines do not reduce Covid-19 mortality, period.”

You also missed my nuance, but that’s not surprising at this point.

I don’t follow the logical leap. It’s clear the paper doesn’t demonstrate a difference, you’re right.

I do think it’s disingenuous to say that the vaccine categorically doesn’t prevent deaths, if it can prevent infections that would lead to deaths, that’s a good outcome. Additionally, the real world performance in the general population is showing a massive divergence in deaths and cases in elderly populations after the coverage of vaccines. That may be from some other variable and not vaccines, but I’m not sure that I would be able to suggest an alternative cause.

While this is a literal interpretation of all-cause mortality from the paper, I’m not sure this is the right take away.

There was such a dramatic reduction in overall cases in the vaccination group that deaths are probably more statistical noise in both groups than being tied to covid one way or another.

Currently deaths and cases have diverged dramatically in the population and this might be more indicative of the real world vaccine performance as it pertains to reducing death.

I’m licking my chops and hoping the SF bay does get cheaper; I’d love to live in the city or in Berkeley if the prices dropped significantly. Especially if commuting isn’t a big part of my life.

Meanwhile, you couldn’t pay me an extra 100k a year to consider moving to the Midwest or Texas. I just value weather and nature and outdoor activities far too much to deal with those places. I guess if your family is there or something, but most of the year is unbearable away from the west coast.