mah4k4l's comments

The dispersed fallout? Hard to quantify because of it's dispersedness and long term slowness. But it is for example plutonium and we know it's effects on life on Earth, so one could proceed from there with some math and futurological trend extrapolation. And simply by using the knowledge we have about plutonium mixed with common sense.

Ok yes my bad forgot to post the limits. At least used to be lake fish two times in week tops.

Finland. In Finland. According to Finnish authorities. Countries with East Block histories like Poland tend to not care as much what the actual science of the stuff is. Nor does the Nuclear Is Clean - crowd is seems. "Everything radiates; just look at the bonfire, it's radiation". Yeah, right.

Has affected millions of peoples health already and whole ecosystems. And the consequences will cumulate from this thousands of years. Count that in your equation and get more informative numbers.

After Chernobyl you still today cannot eat fish from the lakes and rivers in 1000+ km radius from the site by Finnish recommendations. Because they are top predators and have enriched the gamma dose in themselves. How often could you eat human meat?

Plutonium problem multiplies in top predators. Here already for thousands of years now thanks to nuclear plant disasters. Which are avoided by causing a slow power plant disaster by releasing radioactive pressure to the environment. Guy Debord's comment on this from Comments on the Society of the Spectacle: "much more civilized to sip a littl wine all of the time than to drink the whole bottle all at once like a Pole" :-)

Nuclear energy is a subsidised energy source, lobbied by powers that be on the corridors of power in the EU and everywhere else. Solar is cheaper.

Humanity is out of it's depth with this stuff. Could cause massive extinction event eventually even if we stopped now by killing and mutating sperm cells and all that. Go have a holiday in Fukushima. Go visit the deformed children still born in Uzbekistan near these places.

Maybe massive move to hydroponic farming done on sea rafts or something. Or on those whirling space stations with artificial gravity . 3d - printing food (if you believe in bioenergies first print some living tissue then kill it u done) is an option. Harvesting plankton is an option. Cultivating airborne plankton and such for protein is an option.

The guy is right (I know nothing about the guy himself): if the current trend continues we're left with desertation. We need soil - producing agriculture and the current one is soil - destroying. It doesn't need to be economically viable in itself. It could be subsidized for common interest by the public sector.

The spouse of Kali Linux? After all they seem to be on the same page politically despite their seeming differences.

Thanks for the advice; just put mine on. The world of the dead fascinates me.

> I haven't seen HN use shadowbanning to censor anyone.

Maybe it was the ones you didn't see? Bacause they were shadowbanned?

My post was about ethics, trying to be formal and simple about the question what is it to do the right thing. Basically it was about this: sometimes good is right, sometimes evil is right, so good can be wrong and evil can be right, and we have four things of which the main question is the question of right and wrong.

I wouldn't consider myself to be a "toxic personality" but being ghostbanned did piss me off a little. More than pacify me. I am pointing out a real ethical issue, not "escalating my bad behavior" by posting this comment is how I see it.

[Edit:]I love HN, it's one of the best sites I know. I'm just pointing out an aspect of it that I don't like. I might use different language now that I'm not as pissed anymore, but I would post it.

> We (as a species) overall do not behave like adults, really.

Ok fair enough. Still there's some sort of a social expectation to that effect. And when you don't behave then you'll get the social sanction given by the community. I can dig that this is the internet and that it's hard work to keep up the standard. You seem to see the two sides to this stuff as well.

Ok I'll agree upon it being a shades of grey - kind of thing. But why not just outright ban someone when it's clear he doesn't fall into those categories of a spammer, a scammer or a troll. Would be much more polite and straightforward in a kind situation where you just seem to have the "wrong opinions" that don't fit the forum or whatever.

It's kind of trivial to check if you're ghostbanned though via wget script or something for example. I don't think ghostbanning slows down spamming enough to be ethically justified.

What ethics boil down to IMO. Comments welcome.

I think you have a fallacy there concerning consciousness and life being transferred into it's cyborg enhancements and then as if animating them. Consciousness and life are equivalent to me, and if you would disagree with this premise you could of course reach different conclusions and be intellectually coherent. Like I said I think your fallacy concerns your consciousness = life being transferred into your cyborg enhancements in the first place. You are not your eyeglasses, right? And you are not your exocortex of the internet. Therefore you also are not your not - living brain cell prostheses although your living system would be kind of tricked into believing so. Therefore as the last vestige of living tissue dies in Major from Ghost In A Shell, she dies and is no more and there will be only a lifeless machine left. That's my perception of the matter based on my premises.

[Edit] Of course in GIAS - universe there would still be the ghost of Major left in the spirit world. But she wouldn't link with the machine, only the life, I think. I think her ghost would essentially simply be her psychoplasmic material life autonomized from it's infrastructural base the physical body, as what comes to the ugly scientific basis for the process.

And anyway, even if by some kind of wetware - extension the original life would come to animate and interface with the synthetic, then it would still be trapped in it's that body and it's copy would simply be another separate although exactly identical individual.

I liked the Black Mirror Christmas episode. Really drove the point home for me about how "Code Rights" is going to be a real actual political and ethical thing. That and the seventies movie World On a Wire. Philosophical zombies don't have actual consciousnesses, feelings or other qualias, but it doesn't matter. When a simulation realises it's a simulation, a character in someone's book, it might just get very simulation pissed indeed at the situation like in that latter movie. And being a simulation doesn't lessen the simulated very real agony of for example torture and all that.

It's a good strategy not to make anything organism - like on AI - level, methinks. Although OTOH IBM:s Truenorth does save a lot of electricity so hmm... No. That's the worst kind: hardware - level biomimickry. Anything even organism - like is going to simulation - or - not (try to) take over. It's in the blueprint. Watson is correctly built: left - brain reductive - analytical output that advances by trial and error. Or Wolfram AI with it's hierarchical frames and being like a user interface. I suck at coding at that level for the time being but I think I see that point clearly. So don't mix code and data boys and girls.

Brain in a jar, that could of course work.

I know he's lying by this: mind uploading is unpossible. It would have to be body uploading. Mind is the body, mind is an attribute of the organism, of the life. You are your body, there is no escape, although the body might have autonomized emergent psychoplasmic non - physical properties that survive physical death. Even if the replica made by the "Brain Uploader" conman were to be somehow conscious it would not be you, you would still just be at the pay end of that electrocution doohickey.

Sure hope that Jello Biafra doesn't have his facts straight in his 1991 song The Sky Is Falling And I Want My Mummy (Falling Space Junk) with NoMeansNo. The part of the song about US orbital satellites carrrying plutonium waste with them. Please be just a little bidenism from this also so priestly character that JB is. The pitfall of the priestly archetypical character so many a time is just being out to to get the good old Holy Spirit emotional response from the churchgoers and not so much alawys concerned with getting the facts straight.

Increased solar flare EMP risk during the next years ain't a picnic either. Yo this all sucks. Bummer vibes. But don't shoot the messenger.

The song: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mE5ir7bJnDI

A perfect hangover lizard story, 10/10