trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
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trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Top Ceylon language features I wish we had in Java
I happen to find str: String much more readable than String str.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
I think you're confusing Scala and C++.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
In our experience Scala has been a superb alternative for large Java projects. Practical experience vs. your opinion/speculation?
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released
I use the defaults, and then set about removing all shortcuts from my desktop
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
IntelliJ plugin download stats:
Scala 883,000
Kotlin 21,000trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
I know, but the .NET CLR has lagged the JVM for years in terms of performance, but its a few years since I did a comparison...
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released
The most annoying thing about IntelliJ is the way it's keyboard shortcuts clash with virtually every keyboard shortcut of your average Linux distro. Other than that it's an awesome tool.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
Scala implement tail call optimization in the compiler. In general the JVM has always outperformed the CLR:
http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/benchmark.php?t...
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
Better performance? What are you basing that on?
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
I would argue the exact opposite. Odersky has gone to great lengths to discourage overly defensive commentary and bashing of other languages:
http://www.scala-lang.org/old/node/12498
I don't think it's unreasonable to respond to a very poor quality blog post bashing Scala since it received very widespread publicity. The interesting story behind the story is the extreme enthusiasm with which Scala bashing posts are upvoted on various forums. It's highly unlikely that the majority of those voting have actually used Scala.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
I should also point out that it's a feature which I don't believe detracts from readability. It's pretty clear from looking at code which uses ST what it does. There are examples in this thread.
It's a feature that you will use directly maybe once a year when adding it to a library, but I then use that library (and indirectly that feature) virtually every day. YMMV but we've found it very useful.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
Removing structural typing wouldn't be an improvement to my mind. It's the sort of thing you use maybe once a year, but when you do it's extremely useful to have around. It's a bit like saying that removing the ternary conditional operator in Java would make a big difference to developers' lives.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Another Scala rant on HN
The quality of the original "1-star" blog post was extremely low. Odersky sums it up well with:
This week-end's edition is called "Scala - 1 Star - would not program again", and it's by someone who from reading his post seems to have written Scala all of two weeks after coming form Javascript. I think the interesting bit is not so much that these posts are written, but that they are upvoted so much.
I was also very surprised to see such a low-quality blog post being voted up with such enthusiasm on HN and elsewhere.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Scala – 1 Star – Would Not Program Again
C# has various options (see: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/671231/linq-nhibernate-al...)
The Scala equivalent is called Slick, and it's the only SQL DSL that approaching anything near widespread use. I fail to see how incomplete projects on GitHub which happen to be written in Scala are relevent to this discussion.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Scala – 1 Star – Would Not Program Again
C# does that too. It's called LINQ and it's very popular.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Scala – 1 Star – Would Not Program Again
That's pretty odd. What libraries were you using?
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Scala – 1 Star – Would Not Program Again
* You might be better off using a pre-release snapshot of Java 8 as a better Java. You'll get closures, functional collections, and better type inference. I bet Eclipse and Intellij support it better too.*
You lose out on most of the features of Scala, and IntelliJ supports Scala very well.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Scala – 1 Star – Would Not Program Again
For an "academic exercise" it's getting used pretty widely by the likes of Twitter, Foursquare, Netflix etc.
trailfox | 12 years ago | on: Scala – 1 Star – Would Not Program Again
I would rather use almost anything else except the random DSL wasteland that is Scala
In my experience very little Scala code uses DSLs. Learning Scala isn't that tricky for anyone who knows Java, which is a pretty big pool.
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Which is pure opinion/speculation.