wsb_mod2's comments

Showing up as a blank page for me. Fascinating.

https://i.imgur.com/NzFX5Cz.png

When did you go through the process?

Reddit recently updated its top mod removal process (recently as in 5 days ago) and dramatically weakened requirements for removing top mods.

More information on that here: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/xwim7v/updates_to_...

Reddit did not "force transfer" the community, the top moderator was convinced to hand it over.

Reddit, for all its faults, goes to great lengths to give its moderators latitude and discretion to operate their communities, and only steps in as an absolute last resort.

I cannot, as it was invite only. (Edit: As lrae said)

The context is more around how communities should be able to naturally transition as opposed to only doing so during event-driven periods of great distress (E.g. r/AntiWork -> r/WorkReform).

There doesn't seem to be much post-summit discussion about it that I can find. I suspect because it's largely been overshadowed by other, more... spicy, topics.

There's nothing to indicate they wanted to leave. They are still a mod there (without full perms).

They handed over the subreddit under a promise that was immediately broken by the other party. So yes, I suppose you could say they handed it over willingly, but they did so about as willingly as handing money over to an advance-fee scam.

However, this is largely irrelevant because what Reddit truly cares about (insofar as community management) is stability, and I think it's fair to say the community is very unstable right now, and is unlikely regain that stability.

There is no mechanism to enable mods to edit user posts. If what you're saying is correct, it would be quite the controversy.

Use https://camas.unddit.com/ to look at the original version of your post, or share it here. You can also hover over the timestamp on old.reddit.com to show the last edit date.

Yup, @dang is paid.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23810452

Unbelievable behavior from SD. The subreddit is currently an unmoderated mess, illustrating they have no clue how to run the community.

I am unsurprised at Discord's behavior, handing over a server like that. They have essentially been hostile when not silent to us at WSB with our 600K user server.

Reddit has an opportunity to do better here. Hand back control of r/StableDiffusion back to OP.

Steve Huffman alluded to the disaster that is sub transitions in the recent Mod Summit. If someone at Reddit is reading this, this is your opportunity to do better.

The profit motive is being blamed here for optimizing for engagement.

But how do you assess progress when you remove all desire to monetize?

I run r/WallStreetBets and "quality" is an extremely nebulous term.

I look for things like "novelty", "thought-provoking / well reasoned commentary", "original content", "authenticity", "self-awareness" or "primary research". But these are human assessed metrics.

Some more easily measurable metrics might include, "length of submissions", or "number of outbound links excluding blacklisted domains". Or even "number of tickers or quality-correlated keywords mentioned".

All these metrics have very clear downsides, and if generally well-known, become useless. Interestingly, a score too high can also result in something being unlikely to be authentic.

Another challenge is your relationship with users. Surprisingly, moderators are not innately adversarial to users, they can also promote content through other channels (discord, twitter) or sticky threads for a viewership boost.

So, even without a profit motive, what do you do?

I'm not sure if this counts compared to the other posts here, but for me, for many years, r/wallstreetbets.

I think this actually falls in line with most subreddits. You build or support a community because you want to discuss something and there isn't anywhere else to do it.

This is kind of a loose interpretation of the "gets a lot of attention" requirement though.

> The GME centered group left WSB because there was a new mod who didn't fit the WSB philosophy. There were some personal hypothesis about her(?). They even alleged I believe that mod made their adolescent child a mod of WSB who were also removing content left and right.

You are confused. This has nothing to do with WSB.

What you are describing happened solely on r/SuperStonk or the other GME subreddits.

WSB has never had a child moderator.

I agree, I think there's definitely been a large cultural shift when it comes to retail investing. Lots of people these days want to find the one play that gets them to retirement.

That culture shift extends well beyond WSB, but I think its at least somewhat less obvious here. In my experience, most of the time when people throw out price targets, at most they're predicting a 20%, 25% move, and not the 10x, 100x, or 10,000x you see elsewhere.

I don't think there's really a way, from a moderation perspective at least, to take the dreamers out of the equation... other then waiting and letting them get blown up by their high risk plays.

And just a note, r/wallstreetbets hasn't allowed penny stocks, crypto, or NFTs for many years. (NFTs never)

How so? It's a black box algorithm owned by Reddit Admins. Moderators only have the ability to set the threshold, with very vague terms (low, moderate, high, or something similar)

If admins wanted to disappear a viewpoint, it would be a lot easier to just autosuspend the accounts, or shadowban without a trace.

That's a good point. The situation definitely has it's pros and cons.

For example, in the voice chats, its great when users follow up with one another on their trades, or know each other's specialties so they can call them to provide insight.

On the other hand, deemphasizing the user makes it more about the content and less about the person creating that content, which at best avoids bandwagoning and the whole "I called $foo, so listen to me when I say buy $bar".

2020 was marked by a 10x increase in comment volume, largely coming from both incredible, pandemic driven, market volatility as well as stimulus checks and stay at home orders.

It is very unlikely (I hope) that this environment will happen again.

Nonetheless, can you express exactly what it is that "just [isn't] the same anymore"?

Nearly 7 years now, a casual before then. (For context, the sub just celebrated its 10th birthday last week)

What do you want to know?

I think r/wallstreetbets is still a fantastic place and more or less true to its purpose of finding interesting and novel trades.

Much of the discussion has expanded, to discord (600K users, the limit) as well as the daily reddit talks (Think clubhouse but for reddit).

The daily thread is still fantastic for a very quick list of interesting topics, which you can jump into and have a conversation with anyone.

There still remains a decent sense of camraderie, but there are definitely fewer recognizable names amongst the volume of comments. More time being invested into handing out unique flairs will help with this

Weekday meme restrictions over the past week has largely undone all the damage to the main feed and brought back a larger array of high quality discussion.

Predictions add an interesting dimension to the subreddit where all users can participate regardless of personal wealth.

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So overall, I'd say it's going very well. There seems to be a significant amount of misconceptions both in the general population, as well as even our regular users, but as long as we continue to do the right thing and protect discussion quality, people will slowly but surely see the light.

I don't think most moderators don't know this option exists.

It's located on a page that you only visit once to set up the subreddit, or to make large subreddit changes. (On old reddit, not sure about new reddit)

To Reddit's credit, they have been adding new features over the years to help separate communities and ensure they are somewhat able to maintain their culture.

E.g. Crowd Control which limits the posting / commenting abilities of individual users based on their history or other heuristics.

The site itself leans left, I wouldn't call that manipulation, simply people voting on content they like.

However, you are onto something.

Almost every single post on r/MurderedByAOC is made by u/LrlOurPresident, and those posts hit the front page on a nearly daily basis.

> but it never stays that way for long

It can stay that way, but it's a hard decision to untick these boxes: https://i.imgur.com/E2G9SUh.png

Too early and the sub dies, too late, and you'll wish it died.