While we're at it - thanks, Dang. You do a lot of hard work keeping HN a place worth visiting. I even appreciated the time or two you corrected me personally.
The comments sections of most online forums are about useless and I know that places like HN don't stay this way by accident.
The quality of the comments here is so high that I often preface my Google searches with "site:news.ycombinator.com" when I'm researching technical stuff.
Sometimes I'm more interested in the tech scene's opinion on an article than the actual article itself.
Other times, if an article is excessively long, or is a video, I look for someone that summarised the gist.
On that note - am I the only one who would prefer to read transcripts of videos than watch videos themselves? Specifically news sites that only have the video report and not any accompanying text.
A decade ago I would have agreed with you. In blogging's heyday in general I found online articles to be of much higher value than the comments, especially as Slashdot descended into pure meme-dom.
But these days there is a confluence of factors that have driven average web content quality through the floor. Whether it's the highly tuned click-bait industry, the easy accessibility of turnkey viral content platforms like Medium encouraging banal populist "think" pieces, or just the mainstreaming of tech startups as an average career path, whatever it is the average article I see these days is worth far less than the attention it expects.
I'm not sure whether HN comments are the best use of my time either, but middlebrow dismissals not withstanding, at least they aren't a race to the bottom.
When I'm browsing from the airplane wifi I just can't afford to waste 4 megas in just trying to open a simple text site (that will not charge completely by the way). So I open HN and I´m still able to read about the news but just expending a few Ks for each one.
Lots of special tools. I'm working on revising them so we can open-source the parts that are useful for general reading.
Right now it's a Chrome extension, but I'd love to serve it as plain JS. Anybody know if you can give a web app privileges to open and close tabs without making it a browser extension?
(Don't worry, btw; if we ever publish this it will be entirely opt-in.)
I actually optimize for the comments, heh. I open HN links in new tabs and then wait a day or two for the discussion to complete before reading through them. So I don't end up refreshing for new comments or re-reading the same ones.
There are a couple downsides to this though: One, I generally miss the window for participation. Two, my browser is perpetually filled with dozens of HN tabs.
I often read the comments first, and then read the article. I love comments sections in general (Gawker, Gothamist, NYT come to mind in terms of decent commenters), but I've never learned as much as in the HN comments section.
Depends if anything controversial has been posted that day. Some topics I read get hundreds of comments, some get about 3. So I guess it depends on whether there's a political war going on or some giant controversy in internet land, or whether anyone's staying reasonable for a few days or so.
>Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something (e.g. to ask us questions about Y Combinator, or to ask or complain about moderation). If you want to say something to us, please send it to [email protected].
This may not specifically fall in that category, but you may still want to email if you don't get your answer here.
Too often comment chains devolve into nitpicking, pedantry, and into off-topic discussion where two people fight tooth and nail for Internet Points.
From a technical perspective I get little or nothing from them, and from a discussion standpoint there's little reason for me to spend my time watching people nitpick each other over things that nobody in the community cares about.
Don't forget the obligatory 18-comment critique of the OP site's design choices regarding page size, font, color scheme, and scrollbar and/or back button hijacking, not to mention hosting and CDN critique. It's common enough to warrant its own segregated meta thread for every post to keep it out of the on-topic discussion.
[+] [-] crusso|10 years ago|reply
The comments sections of most online forums are about useless and I know that places like HN don't stay this way by accident.
[+] [-] thucydides|10 years ago|reply
[+] [-] colinbartlett|10 years ago|reply
1. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/shut-up/oklfoejikk...
[+] [-] dang|10 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] jeffwass|10 years ago|reply
Sometimes I'm more interested in the tech scene's opinion on an article than the actual article itself.
Other times, if an article is excessively long, or is a video, I look for someone that summarised the gist.
On that note - am I the only one who would prefer to read transcripts of videos than watch videos themselves? Specifically news sites that only have the video report and not any accompanying text.
[+] [-] jakub_g|10 years ago|reply
[+] [-] dasil003|10 years ago|reply
But these days there is a confluence of factors that have driven average web content quality through the floor. Whether it's the highly tuned click-bait industry, the easy accessibility of turnkey viral content platforms like Medium encouraging banal populist "think" pieces, or just the mainstreaming of tech startups as an average career path, whatever it is the average article I see these days is worth far less than the attention it expects.
I'm not sure whether HN comments are the best use of my time either, but middlebrow dismissals not withstanding, at least they aren't a race to the bottom.
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[+] [-] dang|10 years ago|reply
Right now it's a Chrome extension, but I'd love to serve it as plain JS. Anybody know if you can give a web app privileges to open and close tabs without making it a browser extension?
(Don't worry, btw; if we ever publish this it will be entirely opt-in.)
[+] [-] Reedx|10 years ago|reply
I actually optimize for the comments, heh. I open HN links in new tabs and then wait a day or two for the discussion to complete before reading through them. So I don't end up refreshing for new comments or re-reading the same ones.
There are a couple downsides to this though: One, I generally miss the window for participation. Two, my browser is perpetually filled with dozens of HN tabs.
[+] [-] jsnell|10 years ago|reply
- Highlight any comments added since the last time you loaded the page with a little vertical orange bar.
- Change the hckrnews.com comment count display to show the number of unread comments in addition to the number of total comments.
[+] [-] mk4p|10 years ago|reply
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tab-snooze/pdiebia...
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[+] [-] lexhaynes|10 years ago|reply
I probably read ~500 comments a day on HN.
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[+] [-] smeyer|10 years ago|reply
>Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something (e.g. to ask us questions about Y Combinator, or to ask or complain about moderation). If you want to say something to us, please send it to [email protected].
This may not specifically fall in that category, but you may still want to email if you don't get your answer here.
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[+] [-] anon987|10 years ago|reply
Too often comment chains devolve into nitpicking, pedantry, and into off-topic discussion where two people fight tooth and nail for Internet Points.
From a technical perspective I get little or nothing from them, and from a discussion standpoint there's little reason for me to spend my time watching people nitpick each other over things that nobody in the community cares about.
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