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Ask HN: Please don't submit April Fools stories. Please don't vote them up.

222 points| bhousel | 16 years ago | reply

Submitting April Fools stories is just not the Hacker News Way. They're not funny, and they're a waste of everybody's time.

Thanks in advance.

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[+] hubb|16 years ago|reply
dear hn: please don't ask the rest of us to not submit stories that you personally don't enjoy.

just don't read them.

regards, the reasonable people

[+] mechanical_fish|16 years ago|reply
just don't read them

If only they came with labels. Unfortunately, the hallmark of a web-based April Fool story is that it comes clothed as a real story. They're deliberately crafted to sucker you in and convince you to read two to six paragraphs before you figure out that they're made of lies.

In other words, April Fool's Day is a linkbait competition. I think that's why it has worn out its welcome for so many people. Linkbait used to be more funny when it was rare. Now it's like celebrating Mosquito Day, or Spam Email Day.

Yours would be a reasonable suggestion if every April Fool story was submitted with a prominent label reading [APRIL FOOL]. But that would spoil the fun, wouldn't it? If there's anything less fun than an April Fool story, it's an inartful April Fool story.

Frankly I think Google raised the bar years ago when they announced Gmail on April 1. I no longer think an April Fool story is any good unless it (a) sounds like an obvious April Fool joke but (b) is 100% true.

[+] raganwald|16 years ago|reply
Also, please flag anything you don't consider hacker news. The mods will do the rest. We won't be offended if an article we like is killed. If there are so many that the mods are offended, I'm sure they'll let us know.
[+] bobbyi|16 years ago|reply
I agree in general, but the internet April Fool's thing is beyond lame. It wasn't funny on slashdot in 2001 and it hasn't gotten better since.
[+] thibaut_barrere|16 years ago|reply
And the real hacker is probably ok if (s)he has to recreate his own bayes-powered HN derivative anyway :)
[+] randrews|16 years ago|reply
The word "hack" comes from the tradition of elaborate practical jokes at MIT. I can't think of anything more hacker-like than April Fools stories.
[+] gn|16 years ago|reply
I can't think of too many things less hacker-like than "today we try very hard to be funny in a really formulaic way because that's what everybody else does".
[+] bobbyi|16 years ago|reply
If somebody actually pulls off a great MIT-style April Fool's hack, then a news story talking about it or an explanation of how they did it would be a great submission.

But there's nothing hack-like about unfunny people trying their hand at being The Onion. If that sort of story belong on HN, then I suggest that we also start voting up LOL cats since they use the clever hack of overlaying macro text on top of an image file.

[+] tomerico|16 years ago|reply
A more proactive and reasonable approach could be to submit this:

"Ask HN: Please submit all April Fools stories to this thread"

[+] mgrouchy|16 years ago|reply
I think you are right on the money here.
[+] ottbot|16 years ago|reply
I could see this coming a mile a way.. Are April Fools stories something so unbearable for one day a year? I think a number of people find these things interesting, creative, and possibly even funny.. Not sure if the fact don't enjoy them constitutes policy.
[+] gn|16 years ago|reply
April Fools' stories are like lolcats. If you saw one of them for every fifty or so sites you visited they'd be kinda cute; if you see them ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE they're just really stupid spam. Also, most of them are a lot less funny than the originator believes; it's almost as if there were an annual blonde joke festival.

I think it would be nice if there was ONE aggregator without any April Fools' crap on it. If you want April Fools' stories you do know where to find them.

[+] webwright|16 years ago|reply
TO honor your request, I will not upvote this story.
[+] kylemathews|16 years ago|reply
Hmmm... I disagree. But feel free to not click on any of them.
[+] noodle|16 years ago|reply
there are a few neat ones, like street view 3d.
[+] matthavener|16 years ago|reply
Thanks. I really hate it when HN wastes my time.
[+] Sukotto|16 years ago|reply
Personally I find April 1 to be one of my most productive days of the year. It's the one day I tend to stay away from tech-news sites since I cannot trust that the news is genuine.

It's only a happy coincidence that I even noticed this thread as I was switching to the "no news" version of my iGoogle page.

Enjoy your prank day guys (seriously. Have fun). I'll give it a few days for the joke stories to fall off the front pages of HN, /., etc.

[+] joshfinnie|16 years ago|reply
We could look at this in a different way. I created a new Ask HN to allow for people to link to their favorite April Fools joke. This should help control the April Fools joke submissions and still allow people to express their joy of being fooled.

Link: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1234653

[+] mquander|16 years ago|reply
On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

I don't see anything in there about not wasting everybody's time!

[+] yan|16 years ago|reply
"Submitting April Fools stories is just not the Hacker News Way." I'll respectfully disagree.
[+] smackfu|16 years ago|reply
You are telling other people to not vote for things they like, just because you don't like them. THAT is not the HN way.
[+] Groxx|16 years ago|reply
Given that the ones posted here are often programmer-related (ie, the UniXKCD), why not? Far more inane and less-geek-related things are posted year-round, and at higher rates, and they get attention too. I'm not saying this is good or bad for HN, but they're clearly interesting to the inhabitants, so there's definitely a valid argument that that's what's best. And arguments against. Bah, whatever.

I, however, wouldn't oppose a "[A1]" (or similar) tag prefixing April Fool's threads, and would happily modify my lonely submission if people would prefer.

[+] JoelMcCracken|16 years ago|reply
I agree, but lets instead add a label for the April Fools items.

I suggest [AF] for things that are certainly April Fools, and [AF?] for items that the submitter isn't certain about.

But I do find it a bit irritating not knowing exactly what I'm about to look at.

[+] sofal|16 years ago|reply
I've found that the most consistent and prevalent thing about HN on April Fools' Day is the whining about April Fools' Day. It's like a rehearsed puppet show.
[+] jlgosse|16 years ago|reply
I was JUST wishing there were some April Fools posts on the front page. Hopefully some are floating around somewhere
[+] jthyme|16 years ago|reply
I think you're just annoyed at being exposed as a fool on this fine April morning. Get a sense of humor.