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Poll: What CRM do you use at your startup?

69 points| jaxn | 15 years ago | reply

I am getting to the point that I need to be managing sales prospects and relationships with more people than I can remember on my own. So I am thinking about investing time into loading things into a CRM. The questions is, which one?

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[+] snprbob86|15 years ago|reply
We tried a whole bunch of things, but sharing contacts, managing notes, follow-up reminders, etc. was just too much of a hack to bother with for a two man shop like ours.

So here's what we did:

1) Make a Google spreadsheet

2) Share with the team

3) Add a "follow up" column of dates

4) Sort by that

5) Learn to love the find-in-sheet command

Works great!

[+] pamelafox|15 years ago|reply
On the teams I've worked on at Google, we pretty much take the same approach. The only problem is when you're looking beyond your own team's contacts, and you have to search a few different spreadsheets to find the contact of interest. We've thought about using the API to provide a central search to all of the spreadsheets for that case, which wouldn't be too difficult to do.

I'm sure the real contact management tools are nice, but I also love the beauty and ad-hoc nature of spreadsheets. It's so easy, anyone can do it, and so everyone does do it. Might as well embrace it and build on top.

[+] quellhorst|15 years ago|reply
Would be nice if you could make an example with your sensitive data replaced?
[+] JonZack|15 years ago|reply
My best answer is "why do you want a CRM?". If it is to manage sales people now or in the near future then Salesforce is good if you can afford it, it is also good to grow into if you plan to have customer service people. Plus I hear they have a free version for small companies - not sure. If it is just for yourself, then the question is how many prospects are you managing. If it is a lot (over 200) then SugarCRM or Highrise is best suited. If less than 200, Google docs spread sheet is good to start with unless you need to track a lot of data/ prospect interactions, then use one of the former. If you have never done this before I suggest starting out with a spread sheet and keeping it simple since you will inevitably be making changes to it regarding what you will track and how you will use it to make more sales. This approach will help you refine your immediate and possibly long term needs, and what product is best suited for you. I personally always start with a spread sheet before making a commitment to any system until I know what I/we need. Zoho is a good happy medium between these two choices.
[+] codeslush|15 years ago|reply
You might want to add FatFreeCrm to your list - it's not as feature rich as some, but also doesn't suffer some of the same bloat. It's written in Rails and easy to modify.
[+] jaxn|15 years ago|reply
Added. Please vote :)
[+] nirvdrum|15 years ago|reply
I'm interested in whether anyone has found one that will let you log messages from within GMail. I'm not talking about the "social CRM" that can pull up an avatar. I don't want to have to forward or BCC messages to get them into my CRM, so a simple "log message" button in GMail would be ideal.
[+] ajessup|15 years ago|reply
http://www.noosbox.com/ (in private beta) does exactly this, without too much extra fluff. Contact me through my HN profile for an invite.
[+] codeslush|15 years ago|reply
I wasn't aware of insight.ly until reading one of the other comments on this thread. Good news for you - looks like it has a feature like this!
[+] cch2011|15 years ago|reply
what do you mean by a simple log message button? what are the benefits for this? I'm curious because I'm currently using Google contacts.
[+] fjabre|15 years ago|reply
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[+] jaxn|15 years ago|reply
You have identified a definite pain point. Unfortunately it doesn't yet look like there is enough there for me to choose it as a core business tool.

I look forward to seeing it progress.

[+] auxbuss|15 years ago|reply
Your site is very broken here :(

Page displays a grey box with "video" in the middle. Tried FF and Chrome.

FAQ, Getting Started, & Twitter links all fail with a Posterous "Sorry, we couldn't find what you were asking for".

Shame, as I was very interested in what you are doing.

[+] willrobins|15 years ago|reply
Sales Force is great when you are small - I went from Start Up to 20 Sales Reps and 5 back office with 42 total people in last few years. Here is the breakdown of what works when and why.

http://www.robinsunleashed.com/?p=106

Great info already with the voting... here is the "WHY"

[+] lachlanj|15 years ago|reply
I totally agree with you here. If you are planning on scaling up you team Salesforce works well, especially for managing big teams or even a number of teams.

However if you are small company say under 10 people, salesforce can be cumbersome.

So really it depends on what your company does and what you need to capture.

[+] fnazeeri|15 years ago|reply
For b2b you can't beat Salesforce.com. High-rise is a nice contact manager but a terrible CRM.
[+] jaxn|15 years ago|reply
Why? I have never used a CRM (I am more of a hacker than a salesperson).
[+] bearwithclaws|15 years ago|reply
This is probably absurd (and yes, I've tried most of solutions) - I use SimpleNote (thru Notational Velocity desktop app) to manage almost everything - including CRM.
[+] lachlanj|15 years ago|reply
Salesforce: my opinon is salesforce does everything you could ever want but its very expensive for small companies, and every add on makes it even more expensive

Highrise (My preference): Doesnt have 'all' the features i want, but has 90% of them, is cost effective and a lot of other apps use its APIs. I also find it easier to add data in as I go, where as with Salesforce I was a chore that I alway put off.

[+] jefe78|15 years ago|reply
Over at my last company, we used Salesforce, with a lot of success. I was the implementor, so it was all a little over my head, but the sales guys seemed happy. Its was for a team of ~9 sales staff.
[+] irious|15 years ago|reply
We wrote our own, lots of work but it's fully integrated into my company.
[+] darren|15 years ago|reply
We used to use Pipeline, but recently switched to Bantam Live. Better pricing model, better user interface, decent reporting, plus it has an iPhone version. Worth checking out.
[+] blender|15 years ago|reply
We used to use Solve360 but we use Bantam Live now too. Solve360 is actually a very powerful CRM platform/toolkit but the non-technical people didn't really grok it. Bantam Live has some warts but it provides a lot of functionality without making many compromises. Second that it is worth checking out.
[+] tony_landis|15 years ago|reply
None of the above, rolled my own.
[+] cookiecaper|15 years ago|reply
I'm working on a custom one too. Also manages invoicing and accounting.
[+] jaxn|15 years ago|reply
FYI, I think I am going with Google Contacts and Google Spreadsheets for now. When I being on a head of sales they can decide to use another CRM if they want, but I don't want to manage contacts two places and I want them in my phones (iphone and android). I may also play with insight.ly at the same time. I would use Highrise if it was integrated with Google Apps.

Thank you for all of the feedback.

[+] _urga|15 years ago|reply
A colleague and I started off with Highrise which was great. But we wanted auto email importing, real-time feeds and fast search. We were building an offline-capable web-app at the time and decided to build these features in. It's faster for what we do. I am releasing this as a standalone service. Please let me know if you're interested.
[+] flgb|15 years ago|reply
Other: Pipelinedeals.com
[+] proee|15 years ago|reply
Is there a way in google contacts to share you contacts between multiple users?
[+] jaxn|15 years ago|reply
Yes. Google Apps now allows you to share contacts across the domain.