Ask HN: 1Password vs. LastPass vs. Bitwarden for teams ?

[codegeek]

I know this question comes up frequently on HN but what do you all recommend for 2021 for a business with team size of less than 25. Using passwords in KeyPassX has been useful but it starts getting difficult with a growing team where user specific permissions would be a must.

[thismodernlife]

To be honest, all of these are fine. The very fact that you're going to be rolling out a tool and educating your staff in secure password management is a huge win regardless of which option you choose.

That said, for a team size < 25 I would recommend 1Password. The product is fantastic - best in class - and they are regularly pushing improvements across all platforms.

For teams 50+ I would choose LastPass which has better 'enterprise' features, but despite having used it at work for 7 years I still really dislike it. This could be because I've been using 1Password in a personal/family capacity for about 12 years!

[acmecorps]

I have been an avid user for LastPass since I knew password manager was a thing. But, I’ve been hearing about how good 1Password is from lots of sources. Seems like you know and have experience on both sides. Would you mind sharing why 1Password is better (or even have better experience) compared to LastPass? I use it personally and not in an enterprise setting. Your comment might just push me to use 1Password :)

[blakeburch]

I've been using 1Password for the last 4 years, both with a family account and a work account.

It works perfectly for team management, since you can categorize passwords by vaults and give individual members. or teams, access to specific vaults. You can give guests outside your organization access as well. Beyond passwords, you can also share company cards, credential files, and 2FA tokens.

In addition, 1Password does a great job of letting you know when you should rotate your passwords, when you've re-used passwords, and when any password you've used has been leaked (in conjunction with https://www.haveibeenpwned.com). This helps ensure better security practices across the team.

Only downsides I've come across: - Granular permissions are really hard. For example, at my last job, we had vaults per client we worked with. However, not everyone that works on that client needs access to all of those passwords. The only way around this was to make/manage hundreds of vaults for Client+Function variants. - There's no way to guarantee security of passwords stored in someone's personal vault. - Users can create a vault and remove owners/admins from it (unless this has changed).

[tenacious_tuna]

Can you elaborate on "There's no way to guarantee security of passwords stored in someone's personal vault"?

[adamgordonbell]

I have used LastPass for a long time, for personal usage. Recently I have begun using 1password in a team context and It is really nice. I vote for 1Password for team usage.

[amingilani]

I'm in the same camp as this. I'd been using LastPass for about a decade and their security quiz told me I was in their top 1% of rated users.

1Password was a drop in replacement for me and my family and it even let's me save TOTP keys so that's very convenient.

It also has a printable backup key so it's beginner friendly and looks aesthetically pleasing so my partner is happier using it.

Meanwhile LastPass was still struggling with U2F/WebAuthn support when I last used them.

[klerpi]

Bitwarden is open source and you can self host it if I'm not mistaken.

Former LastPass user here.

[sildur]

I have bitwarden self hosted. I'm using bitwarden_rs and it's really really good.

[EvilPaticus]

I've used 1pass for teams and family, and LastPass and I would choose 1password hands down every time. My experience with LastPass has been miserable, from functionality to UX it's just a bad product in my opinion. I do wish the Windows client for 1pass was a little more polished, but it does have all of the functionality I expect and the UX is generally the same as macOS it's just a little rougher around the edges.

[nasmorn]

I tried bitwarden when 1Password changed to subscription because it is cheaper but at least on OS X the 1Password app is so mich better I simply paid the 60.

[codegeek]

very helpful. thanks.

[claudiojulio]

Of these three, only one is really safe: Bitwarden. With the other two you have to trust without proof that you are safe. With Bitwarden, you trust and know that you are safe because the source code is open.

Automatically translated.

[gingerlime]

Bitwarden for my team and also family.

Open source. Using the hosted service though which is reasonably priced.

The UI/UX is a bit clunky, especially for sharing. But it does the job for the most part.

[sullof]

If you are interested in checking a completely different approach, you can look at Secrez https://github.com/secrez/secrez. It is a CLI secret manager that supports git repo for distribution. Using other packages in the suite, Secrez allows direct communication between local desktop accounts using SSL tunneling. Disclosure: I wrote it.

[sullof]

It is not for team, right now. But I can add features in that direction if there is interest from the community.

[olq]

Personally I've been using KeePassXC with self hosted Nextcloud sync for many years and it works great on desktop, apart from minor merge conflicts when server or clients been offline for long. I haven't found a good solution for iOS but Keepassium and Minikeepass is OK for occasional logins. I think it might bee more of a Nextcloud issue on mobile.

I think it's totally insane to let a third party manage your passwords.

[0x008]

Strongbox is a nice iOS keepass compatible client. Integrates with the iOS password auto fill and can use can use Face ID / Touch ID with the pro versions. It supports google drive, iCloud, onedrive, sftp and local Storage on your iOS device. I find the UI is quite ok.

[zug_zug]

I had to make a call for the startup I work at. I went with 1pass and it has gone well. I had tried lastpass before and loathed the UI.

The only thing it lacks is a more powerful granular permissioning now that we've scaled. Ideally, there'd be a way for each new hire to automatically get an account and roles via LDAP, and immediately have access to necessary secrets based on that with no manual step.

[Freezerburnt]

I use BitWarden and run my own vaults. Pretty easy to set up using docker on a Linux machine.

I've had some trouble with the BitWarden anrdoid app not wanting to help fill in login information, but I put that down to user error - it's close enough I just can't be bothered to dig deeper.

[berkserbet]

I use the built in Apple one, works great but now I'm trapped. Not sad about it yet.

[sildur]

Good luck migrating your credentials out of apple keychain. I had to do it one by one. Never again.

[adontz]

I use BitWarden, pretty happy.

[vr46]

Used both LastPass and 1Password across massive teams, and 1Password wins IMHO.

[pnunesc]

We use Passbolt, in its self-hosted version, at work and is loved by everyone.

[codegeek]

Thanks everyone. Looks like 1Password is winning based on the comments so far.

[vayr]

I've only used 1password so far. I'm a big fan of the company's thoughtful approaches to design. Totally worth the $60/yr for my family.

[jedisct1]

I've been using Enpass for quite some time now. And I see no reasons to switch. It does what's supposed to do, and works well on MacOS and iOS.

[mikecoles]

keepassxc makes my life easier.

[0x008]

The only thing I don’t like about it is that I can’t figure out how to set a global hotkey on OS X.