"new" is such a horrible name. I used to think it mean "create a new post". Please change it to "latest". Even the actually link is called "newest". Don't ever save 3 extra characters.
And add "hottest" instead of having people to click on "Hacker News".
I always associated 'ask' with where you submit questions - not where you see them. [edit] perhaps 'questions' wold be more appropriate?
edit: Whilst we're at it how about some slight changes for mobile? The amount of times i accidentially tap a users name instead of a link has to be at least half the time.
I have never made this mistake - probably because I clicked through there a long time ago...
Upon reading what you have said I can clearly see why someone would come to that conclusion...
Depending on the time of day (and the degree of my idleness that day) I find that the main page sometimes gets a bit stale, in these cases I click on new.
Another reason to go to the new page would be to try to get the first commenter's advantage on a story.
On Reddit, and I think on 4Chan too, they consider(ed) looking at "new" every now and then part of your duty.
The only time I remember to do it is when I or someone I know is submitting something and I want to see how it's doing on "New", but in that instance I try to look at everything else in the top 30 of "New" at least.
A cool idea could be to randomly infuse the front page with "new" links to make sure that they get read and voted on, and that everyone is curating the top links and not just readers of /newest.
The problem is then the signal-to-noise ratio decreases and therefore making the front page less attractive to new (maybe even to more experienced) users.
It would also be interesting, if this actually makes it to the front page to see the reasons why people don't go to the new page. Is it because they are only looking for the "best", or a quick flash of trends, or because they are bored and flick between hn and facebook?
EDIT: And would a better system be to interlace new posts with top posts on a single news page?
I post fairly regularly, and it's become pretty clear that not enough people do. The same content will not get a single vote when posted once, then on it's second posting be on the frontpage for eighteen hours. As it stands, the best content is not winning out.
Well, I don't. I think it would be sooo much better for HN if the FP had 2 columns: 1 column for top news, 1 for 'newest'. Then everyone gets to read it (for a very short amount of time).
I actually read HN through the RSS feed, which I assume contains everything posted. The noise-to-signal ratio is high, but I've had some luck training my RSS aggregator to hide anything related to startups. After that, I actually click on maybe 1 link in 5 (very rough guess, could be fewer than that).
I assume a large percentage of "promotional" links get to the front page because friends voted for it. If they're interesting enough, they'll then get up-voted enough to stay on page for a while. I doubt there are enough people checking "new" to upvote links enough to make it.
How do top links get up-voted in the first place if not on the "new" page? So isn't the question "Who reads the 'new' page?" more relevant? (Whouldn't "Who" also refers to those who up-vote the posts that make it to the top of the list?)
Only if I am unhappy with the frontpage and think I need to influence the article order. But I am looking quite often in the "ask" section, even so one visit a weeks is probably enough to stay updated in that section.
Usually when I'm procrastinating really hard, i.e. I already read everything interesting on the main page twice and still fill the need to avoid work for a bit longer.
[+] [-] yeukhon|12 years ago|reply
And add "hottest" instead of having people to click on "Hacker News".
EDIT
More suggestions from me.
"threads" show my comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=yeukhon
I never actually used this button. I always click on my profile and then find my comments and my submission.
That name is so horrible. Make it "my comments"
whereas "comments" show newcomment, not mine.
ask, jobs, submit. can we just group them differently? and create a filter somethere?
Even 1990s websites could do their nav right. (home, contact, about me, etc)
This is a genuine criticism.
[+] [-] timjahn|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] jonnyscholes|12 years ago|reply
edit: Whilst we're at it how about some slight changes for mobile? The amount of times i accidentially tap a users name instead of a link has to be at least half the time.
[+] [-] cstrat|12 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] Jun8|12 years ago|reply
Another reason to go to the new page would be to try to get the first commenter's advantage on a story.
[+] [-] zdw|12 years ago|reply
At that time, I tend to look at and vote up stories that seem interesting.
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[+] [-] tomasien|12 years ago|reply
The only time I remember to do it is when I or someone I know is submitting something and I want to see how it's doing on "New", but in that instance I try to look at everything else in the top 30 of "New" at least.
[+] [-] makmanalp|12 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] sfrechtling|12 years ago|reply
EDIT: And would a better system be to interlace new posts with top posts on a single news page?
[+] [-] zwegner|12 years ago|reply
1) There seems to be quite a lot of low-quality content (blogspam, etc.)
2) I primarily read HN for the comments, and the new page stories usually don't have any comments
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[+] [-] greenyoda|12 years ago|reply
(HN's RSS URL can be found at the bottom of the front page.)
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[+] [-] ferdo|12 years ago|reply
Not everything good gets upvoted and not everything upvoted is good.
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[+] [-] officialjunk|12 years ago|reply
If you had ranges of percentage as vote options I'd vote for the range that includes 50% of the time.
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[+] [-] bowerbird|12 years ago|reply
so i pretty much always look at the "newest" page, and i might click two or three pages deep in that.
only occasionally do i click over to "news" to see if there's anything solid there i might have missed.
truly, both pages have become a bit unsatisfactory, since one changes too quickly, the other too rarely.
-bowerbird