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Tell HN: Apple paid my iPhone money, with exceptional service

143 points| zoomboy | 16 years ago | reply

Perhaps you remember my post here http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=906168 about Apple not paying out for my iPhone apps and my state of brokeness.

I don't want to leave that accusation in the air without following up on what happened.

A couple of days later, the lady I was speaking to at Apple told me she would take care of the situation. She sent me daily updates on the status of the money, got in communication with all the different sections at the Apple corp and resolved the issue.

Apple actually reprogrammed iTunesConnect to fix my issue (if you upgraded from personal account to business account in the past, you may have noticed the new "Vendor Selection" option). The guy who seemed in charge of this was sending me updates on a saturday as well as a sunday, so it seemed he was at the office at the weekend doing this.

So, I'd like to say that indeed, a lot of it was my fault, and Apple really came through in the end, and the level of personal service was truely extra-ordinary.

Thanks Apple! I'm happy to be selling apps on your store! And thanks HN for discussing the issue so I could see it a bit clearer!

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[+] charlesmarshall|16 years ago|reply
Glad to hear a positive story about Apples app store for a change .. I'm still a bit cynical; they only got their act together after a bunch of negative press about the issue..
[+] mechanical_fish|16 years ago|reply
they only got their act together after a bunch of negative press about the issue.

It's pretty difficult to clear up a problem like this before it gets negative press. [1]

The speed of negative press just gets faster and faster. It's massively parallel. File a trouble ticket with Apple or anybody else, then Tweet your problem, and the Tweet may be retweeted by 100,000 people before the engineer in charge of reading the ticket even wakes up.

And, if you read the original complaint, this was a problem involving mistaken identity in the context of international banking. Not the sort of thing you can necessarily clear up overnight, even if you're completely focused on it.

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[1] Especially if HN is your definition of "press".

[+] gcheong|16 years ago|reply
How much negative press did this receive? I only saw the HN post. Did it get techcrunched or something?
[+] phatboyslim|16 years ago|reply
Thank you for following up. I often feel people, news outlets, etc. often don't provide any follow-up to a complaint or poor service with a given company. I certainly don't drink the kool-aid of big business, but I still feel they aren't as evil as some people make them out to be.
[+] jxcole|16 years ago|reply
I know that it would be easy to label this with the following:

"Apple is only doing this because of the bad press and they are still bad guys just trying to mop up the bad PR."

But let's not jump to conclusions. After all, they could be altruistically fixing stuff like this right and left. They could be fixing stuff where there was no negative press. And we would never know because we need the negative press to find out in the first place.

[+] dpcan|16 years ago|reply
This doesn't sound like exceptional service given your past situation. It sounds like damage control.
[+] jamiequint|16 years ago|reply
That would make sense if they actually seemed to care about that in any other situation, but there are many more publicized mishaps that have not been corrected at all. I'm thinking the OP just managed to get lucky here.
[+] anApple|16 years ago|reply
So it took 3 months to fix that flaw which nearly put you into lifelong debt.

You should be angry as hell and not thanking them.

[+] zoomboy|16 years ago|reply
It's easy to be forgiving when you have $15.000 in the bank :)
[+] cakesy|16 years ago|reply
Yeah, I know. Why doesn't everybody run around and fix my fuckups quicker? I don't understand why they keep blaming me, when I do something wrong.
[+] oomkiller|16 years ago|reply
Good to know that behind the red tape, there is still human compassion and understanding at work!
[+] sammcd|16 years ago|reply
Any tips for people in your situation? Is there a magical department at apple that will fix these type of issues? If so how do you get in touch with them without getting press?

I'm not in a similar situation, I just feel like this information would be very helpful to a lot of people.

[+] zoomboy|16 years ago|reply
Well, there are two things you can do to be the inside on Apple:

1. Get the number of a reviewer. If you have been publishing apps for a while they will call you and give you their number

2. Get the number and email address of one of the higher ups in iTunesConnect. I have one of those, but I obviously am not going to give it out, I think he would probably not be happy to get everyone bypass the staff filter :)

Most important tip is this:

Apple have many different sections for many different tasks. Email the relevant people directly! If you have a banking issue, email banking. If it is iTunesConnect, email them, if it is developer acccount related, mail the developer relations.

[+] antonovka|16 years ago|reply
To those apologists who said Apple couldn't fix this issue rapidly if they were sufficiently motivated by negative press or otherwise -- you were wrong.

It took many months, but something finally motived Apple to move.

[+] slapshot|16 years ago|reply
Thank you for posting good news! Too many sites post only the bad news and then hide the clarifications/corrections.
[+] ujjwalg|16 years ago|reply
You mention that "you can upgrade from personal account to business accoun", how can someone do that?
[+] zoomboy|16 years ago|reply
It's in the FAQ somewhere. It's a standard practise I believe. You just need to email someone and they convert it, assuming you have the papers.
[+] osu|16 years ago|reply
can you tell us the name of your app? it doesn't seem to be referenced here or in the original post.
[+] zoomboy|16 years ago|reply
Not relevant. I'm not doing this for PR.