JRobertson's comments

Your bias is showing through quite heavily, that may contribute as much to your lack of winning on "religious turf" as your arguments do. Yes, there are plenty of the believers that draw a hard line, but by stereotyping you potentially alienate other believers that would otherwise gladly contribute to the discussion.

There are many Christians that believe in evolution. There are many that believe in creation and many that believe in a hybrid of the two.

I consider myself a "True Christian", and yet I am not a die-hard fundamentalists. I believe that Someone got this whole party started, but I don't believe there are enough facts to establish exactly how much they interacted with this thing we call earth, life, and the universe.

If there is a God, then he would have to know all the science, even the science we don't know, sort of like the ultimate hacker. So he sets up his lab (the universe) aligns all the conditions and drops his sample into the petri dish (earth). I believe that much. The question is, how much did he have to interact with the petri dish after that? Did he have to add food? or zap things with lasers? Did he have to move the dish to a different light source at some point? If creation was setting up the lab and getting things started did he not still create this world?

Note: I don't think we're all just one big science experiment. But if God is all knowing (which is fairly universally accepted among the religious) then he would know science. But at the same time, are our scientists not working towards artificial life? Cold fusion? The physics behind orbits and the like? If we had all the resources and technology we needed would we not have scientists that would want to "move a planet" and try to start life?

Either way, now you have two people, one non religious, and one believer who have a common scientific understanding to start from: The theory of evolution is completely possible and we can work together to test, re-test, prove and improve the theory until it becomes fact or is disproved.

TLDR; Your stereo types and blanket dismissive statements can do as much to hinder the science you're trying to promote as the firm line that many of your opponents draw on this topic. You'll meet more success looking for and arguing to a common ground and then building from there.

One rather large way that they can distinguish themselves is version updates. I'm pretty sure that that reason alone is a large factor behind their success (not primary, or even majority, just large).

Many android users have two options: keep using an older version of android or root their phone and pick up a new OS to get the latest and greatest. CM is the best OS for many models and makes of phones.

I also think their current success up to this point indicates the potential in the market. Something has brought in their millions of users. I'm don't think there is a problem of how they can distinguish themselves as much as there is the question of what have they already done to distinguish themselves and will it scale?

> I understand convenience, but why should we think we've "cracked the code" of the totality of nutrition?

I don't think Rob and is collaborators are making that claim at all. From the OP:

"We do not yet know what the ideal diet for a human is, but our present understanding permits us to easily design a diet that is far superior to what most people are eating."

He clearly states that they are making no claim to providing the ideal diet. They are simply on a mission to do something better than we have. I cannot predict the future so it's possible that he and his partners get rich and stop trying to improve the formula.

I would hope that instead they continue their research and further refine their formula over time and science finds out more about our bodies and their necessary nutrients.

This topic is one that my wife and I talk about regularly.

She is slowly learning to better control her anxiety, but one side effect is that she worries about sleep, all the time. She almost universally resists committing to morning activities because she's worried about how much sleep she'll get the night before.

We just got back from a vacation where she slept like a rock the whole time despite sharing a room with our two kids, a noisy ventilation system and the sounds of the city. I told her it was because she didn't care how much sleep she got.

I've noticed the same thing in myself. The nights I slept the worst are the nights where I care/worry how much sleep I will get.

> Uuuggghh... "follow God"... uggh. Makes me want to puke. I've come to the conclusion that Christianity is just a cult, no better than any of the others, just bigger. And due to its prevalence and ubiquity, more damaging.

Those kinds of comments belong on /r/athiesm not here.

It's one thing to disagree with the choice of the person, the teachings of a particular branch, or even the idea of a God.

But statements like yours are equivalent to Christians walking around claiming that all gays are evil and will burn in hell.

They are stereotypical hate statements that lead to emotional responses instead of intellectual discussions.

You contradict yourself. First you say: "Neither path is right for everyone"

Then you say: "The sad part comes when some bright, young up-and-comer leaves off their interesting personal projects in less used languages in order to focus on only mainstream stuff."

Why is that sad? It's just like you said, "Neither path is right for everyone." I was bright and young once and had an opportunity to go into a start-up and shape the world, but I turned it down for a mainstream job, and I'm happy I did.

There is no reason to pity my choice or mourn for me. And there is no reason to continue to foster the mentality that anyone who has never worked in a start-up is some sort of lesser developer.

I'll third that request for fiber in Lehi and also claim some Neumont pride.

Or you could live in one of the more affordable tech hubs like Austin or SLC, work just as hard, and still grow a successful start-up at a fraction of the cost.

If emotions were water and I was a faucet my first child turned me from a well working plumbing fixture into a slowly leaking one with occasional gushes of H20.

She often drives me crazy now that she's older which in turn leads me to spending most nights chiding myself at my lack of appreciation for her in the moment.

CastleOS has demos that appear to be successfully demonstrating that the Kinect makes a fairly cost effective voice receiver that can cover an entire room.

I used to feel the exact same way about using any sort of voice coms. If anyone else was in the room with me it felt incredibly awkward. The pinnacle was when I decided to play a video game with my then girlfriend in the room and use Ventrilo. She tried to respond to everything I said, and I went as silent as possible.

Fast forward sometime and using voice com software on my computer feels as natural and second nature as using a phone to me. Skype, Vent/Mumble, Web Demos, etc all feel normal.

I imagine that those that stick with using it will find it pushes their comfort zone less. I would also make the prediction that as voice becomes more readily available that the rising generation will just get used to using it and won't really give it a second thought.

All of the major companies have a decent presence in Utah. Adobe just opened up a 1,000 shop in Lehi (15 minutes north of Provo). Utah is one of the larger growing secondary tech hubs in the nation. No where close to Silicon Valley or NYC, but still growing and doing quite well.

http://www.siliconslopes.com/sites/default/files/silicon_slo...

Don't forget that this is a big marketing opportunity for Provo as well. As someone that is house hunting in Utah county the announcement of Google Fiber is the only thing making me consider Provo itself as a viable option.

I definitely see that happening. The big question in my mind is how they're going to interact with Utopia. Both Orem and Lindon have Utopia already. So will they go head to head with them? Or are they just going to skip those cities and hit all the other ones?