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Several battery factories that were planned in Norway have scaled down their plans or have been cancelled due to the much better incentives in the IRA.

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I haven't found any good laptops from Dell, Lenovo or Microsoft that combined the features I want. I want a "desktop-replacement" CPU, good cooling and without GPU. There are quite a few gaming laptops that fit the bill, except the unnecessary GPU and high price (and ugly styling).

Very strange. The Norwegian version of AAA just tested lots of different EVs in winter conditions. Most cars lost 10-25%.The link below is in Norwegian, but the results table should be easy to understand:

https://www.motor.no/aktuelt/motors-store-vintertest-av-rekk...

Anandtech compared DDR4 and DDR5 performance in their Alder Lake review:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17047/the-intel-12th-gen-core...

That includes PHEV. The August record is pure BEV.

There are 1 million leisure boats in Norway, with 5,4m inhabitants. So not exactly just for a very, very small minority..

Not according to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index

I live in Norway, but I don't have any axe to grind with anyone. I work in the IT industry, but I'm not in the consulting business. As you probably know, Bekk has a very good reputation in Norway, and I know several people who works there now, or has worked there in the past. I do use Vy trains for my commute, and I'm not super happy with the service, but that's not my motivation for my comments.

It is more a concern regarding how the tax I'm paying is used. I understand that people are happy with Elm today. But how will it be in 5 years? Given the small Elm community, will it still be up to date then? Will it be easy to recruit then?

I know of other publicly funded projects in Norway where they ended up using non-mainstream languages, and where it became a problem in the long-term.

I would think most people on Hackernews are familiar with Typescript, but some of the benefits from the top of my head:

- Better tooling - Easier to work with existing javascript code - Superset of javascript - Larger community and ecosystem - More developers are familiar with it - Easy Server Side Rendering

I would argue that Typescript and React or Vue would have been a better solution for the customer. Yes, Elm might be better in some aspects, but I could name quite a few benefits for Typescript as well.

I think the technical reasoning is okayish, but from a business perspective I don't think the customer made a good choice.

With 0.2% of the jobs available in Norway mentioning Elm, and even if some of the companies using Elm might not state it in the job listing, I would say it is a fringe language here.

And I'm not debating what's possible technically, but if it was a wise business decision by the customer to choose Elm. Based on the popularity in Norway in 2017, today and what it likely will be in the future, I think they should have made a different choice.

I don't agree, but I hope the project is successful in the long run as well! I guess time will tell..

I think there is a clear distinction between languages and frameworks.

But again, what are the clear benefits for the customer of choosing Elm compared to the more popular choices in the market, given the (IMO significant) drawbacks of a niche language?

This is exactly what I was trying to say without being that direct.. :-)

Personally, I would love to spend some time learning Elm. My point is not about Elm itself, but how smart it is to choose Elm for a project in 2019, at least in Norway.

There are 546 developer job listings on finn.no. One of them mention Elm.. Typescript get 39 mentions. C# 118. Java 121. Javascript 131.

I don't doubt that you can learn Elm quickly. But how many good developers want to use what might be an obscure technology in a few years.

From the Study of Programming Languages Not to Learn in 2019: "the five languages not to learn in 2019 are Elm, CoffeeScript, Erlang, Lua, and Perl."

I wonder how involved the customer was in the choice of technology. I think the long term costs of choosing Elm will be higher than any perceived gain during the initial development period.

The number of developers with Elm experience in Norway is small, and I think it will make it harder to attract good consultants that want to work on it.

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